To add to this, breathing with a weight vest on is a real bear. Restricted breathing doesn't enhance performance it just limits training capacity which has a negative effect.A weighted vest can lead to lower back stress based on the fact that the weight is being supported by your traps/shoulders. With a good pack, the weight is primarily supported on your hips/legs.
Yes weight is weight but it won’t be as effective as using your pack. With a vest the weight is closer to your body and more evenly distributed, front to back and side to side, it also doesn’t move or shift. The packs place the weight emphasis more on your legs and hips, the weight can shift and it’s not as evenly distributed around your body. You’ll work different muscles with one versus the other.Any ideas on whether training with a weight vest would transfer over to better performance with a pack?
As does running with a vest.... or just running in general. Fact of the matter is, running is not a very effective way to train for rucking nor is running with weight on your body. So ineffective in fact, that if you want to run with weight, it really doesn’t matter if you use a pack or vest because your body will adapt to the demands of running with either, neither of which simulate rucking in the mountains well enough to make you more efficient at that task. So, if you want to be good at running with a vest, then run with a vest. If you want to be good at running with a pack, run with a pack. If you want to be good at rucking with a pack, then ruck with a pack.What if you just want to run with like 10 to 15 pounds? That sounds like a pack would suck.
I think the type of running is a factor too. Running on a flat road vs. trail running with hills makes a difference.There has got to be some transfer. If'n I were to take two dudes, one who sat on his ass all day, and one who ran with a weighted vest, and asked them both to ruck, the dude who runs would obviously outperform.
True, but we’re not comparing X vs. sitting on one’s ass and the transfer of “cross training” for conditioning is significantly less transfer than most people seem to think. There’s something intuitively Inviting about the idea of making training more complex and gimmicky and getting results because of those factors. Personal trainers and the fitness community at large tend to capitalize off of dangling complexity in front of the faces of clients as the magic pill. However, Conditioning tends to be very specific and, comparing it to doing nothing notwithstanding, you need to do the actual thing that you are going to do in order to prepare for it. While you may not have mountains in backyard, you can find something closer to heavy rucking than running with a vest on and even if you just really want an excuse to buy a vest and go running with it, perhaps your results for hunting and general health would be better if you just focused on strength training, which is actually a general adaptation and will allow you to carry heavier loads, and then hiking with a pack for your conditioning as your season approaches.There has got to be some transfer. If'n I were to take two dudes, one who sat on his ass all day, and one who ran with a weighted vest, and asked them both to ruck, the dude who runs would obviously outperform.
Strength correlates to everything. It is the most common way in which you interact with the world: you apply external force to walk, get up from the toilet, push a chair across the room, pick up a box off the floor, run, hike, carry weight, pick up a pack. There is no way in which you interact with the physical world that doesn’t require some measure of strength.Do you have evidence to suggest strength training correlates to hunting results? I'd bet the correlation there is even less than weighted vest running to rucking.