Would You Take This Shot?

Beendare

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Fwiw, One of the only elk I’ve ever lost was when shooting behind the shoulder on that quartering shot.

I tracked that bull for 4 hours, Seems I only got one lung. Elk are tough, chose wisely and know their anatomy. Of course that photo I posted is a deer but elk have the same skeletal structure only 3X heavier.

It shouldn’t be a surprise that the dozen or so elk I have seen shot through the collar or frontal into that hole in the skeleton, all of the arrows completely disappeared inside the chest. No bone structure to stop the arrow.
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Billy Goat

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I'd connect the dots and shoot for the crease, behind the black dot. That's still a double lung, that elk isn't quartering that hard. 25 yards, I can come really close to the hair I'm aiming at. I'm not scared of a frontal at all, killed several with it, but I don't think that one is facing me enough for it.


Arrow weight be damned. I'm of the opinion that you aren't building an arrow that is consistently shooting thru bone. An animal is too dynamic of a target, just their reaction to the shot and the weight they might or might not have on that bone can be a determining factor as to if it breaks or not.
 

Mighty Mouse

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So “Ashby says”, eh? HA!

How many elk has he killed exactly?
Has anyone actually seen photo evidence of anything Ashby has shot? . His EFOC theories he developed with straws and rubber bands got laughed out of existence by the Physics guys years ago.
See if you can dig up any actual proof- in 25 yrs Ive never seen it.


Ashby is the Bernie Madoff of Bowhunting. for a guy that supposedly shot hundreds and hundreds of animals (alive/dead) why has nobody ever seen a photo of an arrow in one?
Cameras probably weren't real common in the African Bush and Australian Outback in the 1980's & 90's, but here are 3 photos attributed to Ashby that I found within 5 minutes of Google searching.

Whether you agree with his advice or not, calling Ashby a con man is completely unwarranted.
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Old Indian saying " Shoot maybe... no shoot...no maybe..."

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... Black dot and maybe a little higher than indicated but would probably actually wait for better shot angle . Have passed on this shot angle before in the past.
 

Coveyleader

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Quick glance at the elk, I would have passed. Then I read and saw some advocating black dot, and see it would do the job. But for me, and I've killed a few with frontals, my initial reaction was to pass and I would have until he either got broadside, or angled towards me just a bit more.
 

Laramie

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I have taken a couple just above the black dot. Both died inside of 80 yards. Both of my shots were under 20 yards.
 

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I would only take a shot on the black dot assuming once he looks straight forward he will open up his broadside more. I would pass on all 3 with his current position, too much risk with non-fatal wound.
 

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I’d pass on that shot. He will move to present a better angle.


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mproberts

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Black dot... I took the same shot on a bull a few years back and he died within 50 yards of the shot. The picture shows the exit wound.

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Lure99

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At 25 yards black dot all day. I added a bit on stonewall's picture to show where the ribcage is, everything in the front of that is lungs so I'd be 100% confident in a kill shot.
 
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