I have a pair of Zeiss Victory SF 10x42 that I purchased a little over a month ago. These are LNIB, have only been out of the house once to a local park. Bought a pair of 8.5 ELs at the same time to do a side-by-side and the only reason I am going with those is due to too much image shake with the 10x. I prefer the ergos/balance of the SF as the weight is shifted towards the eyepieces and make them a bit easier to hold. Image quality was more or less equal IMO. $1600 TYD, or if you have a Victory SF 8x42 I'd be interested in a trade.