So as the op for this post I apologize fellas been really busy since the hunt and the area we were at wireless service was spotty . So here is my report weather conditions were a big factor in this hunt , we were dealing with a full moon and lack of decent snow accumulations on the ground , In GMU-UNIT 5B we were hunting the resident bulls that were in the area the big migratory herds that usually should be in this area were still holding up between the Colorado /New Mexico Line due to the lack of snow. It was alot of driving around and glassing the rock ridges and the sides of the mountains since it was a full moon the morning hunts were tough by the time you had shooting light alot of these bulls were up high already instead of catching them on sage flats like we hoped , so we had to change up our game plan spotting and stalking was tough the snow on the ground was crunchy and if we had a shot they were out to 6-800yrds, I don't do alot of long range shooting one you have to have a place to shoot from that distance , the farthest at my place is 300yrds so I just wasn't comfortable making that type of shot and that's just making the right decision on my part I'm not there to wound I'm there to kill my rifle is very capable of that distance and farther just need to put in more trigger time behind it and get my scope completely dialed in dope wise. Now for the experience it was awesome and I was hooked it beats sitting in a deer blind and waiting for the animal to come to you like in texas , putting in the work on foot and stalking the animal was hunting to me , I learned that my working out and training that I did help me out walking up the sides of the mountains with snow and not getting winded also having good boots played a big part comfortability and you veteran elk hunters would agree taking care of your feet is key my firstlite gear did its job in the cold weather and merino wool is a plus . My Outfitter was outstanding and enjoyed every minute with those guys (H&A OUTFITTERS) very professional ,food was great comradarie was awesome just like being around my brothers I served with , thats why I already have my application done and hopefully draw a tag again for bow or rifle this season and get some more experience under my belt before I jump into the DIY mode which I learned is not smart if you dont what else comes with elk hunting game I helped pack out an elk damn that meat is heavy and I was going down hill , I tried to picture myself quartering and packing out a bull by myself and the things that could go wrong especially with sketchy terrain , and predators seeing some of the big cat tracks that my guide showed me negative have to crawl before you can walk and I wanna build that confidence first, I wish I was posting a pic of me holding a bull just wasn't my time ,but my chance will come and hopefully be rewarded next time (sorry for any grammar mistakes). Semper Fi