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Does anyone have any real-world field testing comparisons with these two bags? After my last two weeks of sleeping in temps from 0-20 degrees, I need to upgrade to something a little warmer.
I got nothing, I bought a WM Kodiak and called it good. Hear good things about the SG bags though.
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Understood on wanting to support a hunting company, but I know the WM bags are good ol made in the US of A. I'm not even sure who sews the SG bags. Anyone know? Just curious more than anything.I have a WM Badger which I love..... But the wife always takes it I am looking to support a hunting company with this purchase. Both look like really good bags. Might have to have Robby get a Kuiu bag and do a head to head.
Understood on wanting to support a hunting company, but I know the WM bags are good ol made in the US of A. I'm not even sure who sews the SG bags. Anyone know? Just curious more than anything.
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Does anyone have any real-world field testing comparisons with these two bags? After my last two weeks of sleeping in temps from 0-20 degrees, I need to upgrade to something a little warmer.
Does anyone have any real-world field testing comparisons with these two bags? After my last two weeks of sleeping in temps from 0-20 degrees, I need to upgrade to something a little warmer.
This is overly sarcastic but please humor me.
Since you are adamant about supporting sponsors, buy the Stone Glacier. At $549 it is a better deal than the Kuiu at $700. The zero degree Kuiu bag has a comfort rating of 15 degrees and the Stone Glacier has a comfort rating of 14 degrees. This is in the upper end of the temperature range that you were cold in. You are wanting to spend $91.50 per degree of additional warmth over what you are currently running.
Since you will likely still be cold in the temperature range that you mentioned, your next step is to buy the Stone Glacier Grumman top and bottoms. It will set you back another $558. You can wear them inside or over the bag. This will get you close to being comfortable to around ten degrees; each degree of warmth now costs you $111.60. You're now up to around $1100 for a ten degree "multi-function sleep system".
$1100 and you are still only at the halfway mark of the temperature range that you were cold in. Maybe your "warm fuzzies" for supporting a sponsor will cover the remaining ten degrees.
I'll stop being sarcastic.
Others have provided excellent advice such as looking at other manufacturers that specialize in sleeping bags. WM has a stellar reputation for a reason. Their bags are top notch, made in the USA, temperature ratings are very conservative, and their pricing is extremely completive.
I needed a new bag this year and I looked at Kuiu, Stone Glacier, and Western Mountaineering. The Kuiu is overpriced for what it offered. The Stone Glacier is a better bag for the money compared to the Kuiu. But for $50 more than the SG, I could buy the WM Antelope that is a lot warmer and better built.
Let me say it different, I’m going to support companies that support Rokslide.
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It should have more down in it considering you compared a 5 deg WM Antelope to a 0 deg Chilkoot. Apples to Apples is a WM Kodiak to a Chilkoot 0. WM has more down than the SG when going to comparably rated bags, and you can have them overstuff as well. For that matter, the roomier Sequoia 5deg bag has 4oz more down than the Chilkoot 0. That roominess comes at a weight penalty, the Kodiak is still probably the direct comparison.Maybe you're aware and it's obvious but Ryan is an Owner of this site. Seems pretty reasonable for him to want to support those that help pay the bills as well as be knowledgeable about their products.
My perfect 3 bag system would be an Antelope MF (5 degree), Megalite (30), and my custom nunatak apex synthetic (roomy 20 degree, 35 ounces) for extended wet climates. That said, Ive looked at the chilkoots and they are very nice! They have a better neck baffle closure system than WM IMO and are made of premium materials. The chilkoot 0 degree has more weight in 850+ down than a long sized antelope. I would wager that there is less than 10 degrees of actual warmth difference. The chilkoot is a roomier fit which would allow for more room to layer inside without compromising loft.
It should have more down in it considering you compared a 5 deg WM Antelope to a 0 deg Chilkoot. Apples to Apples is a WM Kodiak to a Chilkoot 0. WM has more down than the SG when going to comparably rated bags, and you can have them overstuff as well. For that matter, the roomier Sequoia 5deg bag has 4oz more down than the Chilkoot 0. That roominess comes at a weight penalty, the Kodiak is still probably the direct comparison.
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Where are they posting EN ratings on the WM bags? It isn't in their spec sheet in their site, or under the individual bags pages.Looks like WM now posts tested EN comfort and lower limit ratings. I would have figured a kodiak MF would be notably warmer than the Chilkoot 0, but they list it as a 13 degree comfort rating. Compared to chilkoot comfort rating of 14 degrees. Antelope is 13 degrees as well, so it shouldn't be a lot warmer as another poster mentioned.
Getting into the weeds here, the chilkoot would fit between Antelope and kodiak fit wise but with a shell closer to the WM extremelite series.
Just outta curiosity, what was the sleep system that you were using that wasn't cutting it?