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    “Backfire” hunting challenge fail

    Yes, but not really what I meant. I should have said “casual Prs shooter”, not “casual shooter”, two different animals. Place that person somewhere on the dunning kruger continuum between a “casual shooter” and someone who can hit every milk jug first shot at 600 yards. I still think theres...
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    Realistic MOA Expectations vs Marketing

    Radius is from the center of a circle to the outside edge. So the mean radius is half of the “mean group size”. Which means every shot outside that mean circle is increasing the extreme spread beyond that 2x the mean radius, hence the 3-ishx MR to reach extreme spread. If mean radius=.5”, then...
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    Realistic MOA Expectations vs Marketing

    Heck yeah .39" MR it's accurate! But go re-read the "your groups are too small" thread and look at the group on a bell curve. 2/3 of the shots will fall within that first standard deviation, only 1/3 fall into the next 2 SD's...so the area inside the mean radius does represent more shots than...
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    Realistic MOA Expectations vs Marketing

    For sure mean radius is relevant. But there is also a valid school of thought that if you want to be sure of hitting a given target with +/- "certainty", the extreme spread is more representative of what you can rely on. MR gives you what you expect to see roughly half the time, ES from a...
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    Vortex Viper Gen II scope reliability?

    They have been ubiquitous for years, they are a known entity at this point. I have one still, and my experience matches what my shooting friends have found--if you are OK with frequent re-zeroing and would be OK having to send it back for warranty service at some point, they work fine for a...
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    “Backfire” hunting challenge fail

    A lot of people, me included, have their "long range" experience mainly from PRS and similar. For a casual shooter it's no big deal to miss on the first shot, see where you hit the dirt, and make a correction based off that to start making pretty decent hits. I've even been guilty of...
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    Dedicated sporting clays gun

    I haven't been really into sporting clays in few years, but at the time (say 7-8 years ago) saw plenty of autoloaders. Maybe there is SOMETHING to the cycle time, but I'm guessing if so a tiny fraction of shooters are good enough to notice the difference--would not worry about that with any...
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    Northwoods old school whitetail

    “Are” popular, not “were”—still the most common rifle I see in the woods. At this point since they arent made anymore they are status symbols.
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    Tikka 6.5 Creed rechambered to PRC

    Fair enough. Guessing since its a US-focused cartridge they've just not manufactured any yet. Regardless, it sounds like you are buying a rifle to do this with...a stainless t3x is +/- $850 around me. Rechambering is going to be $250 or likely a bit more, plus dealing with the bolt, bolt...
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    Northwoods old school whitetail

    If youre coming from utah to do that and its a bucket list trip, maybe add ontario to the list.
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    Northwoods old school whitetail

    Maine, Adirondacks, maybe northern NH. More or less the deer density will depend on altitude and whether theres a lot of timber land, but its not a deer-dense style of hunting. In fact, if youre in snow having low deer density is actually helpful. I dont know how it compares to the great lakes...
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    Lightweight, not $1.5k Tikka chassis options?

    Bravo is just over 3lb. If that’s a chassis. What about an xlr element? Their website is really confusing to me, but it looks like that would put you about 2 1/2 pounds.
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    Tikka 6.5 Creed rechambered to PRC

    Isnt the superlite available in 6.5prc?
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    Let's See Your Semi-Custom Tikka Builds

    This thread is dangerous. This gun is now in an allterra stock purchased used from this forum. Little bit of cleanup work on the bedding, sand and repaint barrel channel, high desert bottom metal, and I like it a lot. This was mostly because I just don’t care for plastic, the only real...
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    Let's See Your Semi-Custom Tikka Builds

    Whats that weigh without the can? Thats the rig a friend was contemplating but wasnt sure where it would land weight-wise.
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    DIY action job?

    I got sick of how fugly mine was so I used a spare piecce of walnut I had lying around, and voila, I now own the worlds nicest 870 express. I worked on a couple others too. I will say that after running mine a couple thousand times it smoothed out a LOT. It’ll never be model 12 smooth, but...
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    First LR hunting rifle

    What other rifles do you have? Regardless of where you land on the big gun versus little gun debate, I think it’s pretty much proven at this point that standard short action cartridges are perfectly capable of taking big game including elk ethically and effectively out past ranges where most...
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    WTB Tikka wood stock (poor condition preferred)

    Want to buy a tikka t3x or T3 WOOD stock. Only interested in wood, not plastic or glass/carbon. The worse condition the better, this will end up being a pattern stock, so not looking to spend much. Broken stock would be fine as long as you have the big chunks. Scratches, dings, etc, no problem...
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    Hornady buys Thompson Center

    Do I have this right? 1) hornady is buying TC 2) Hornady is price gouging 3) nope, hornady is not price gouging 4) wait, its Greg Ritz (wtf that is) that is buying TC, not hornady. 5) Greg Ritz is a sketchy dude 6) Greg Ritz had nothing to do with the sketchiness, its not fair to tarnish his...
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    DIY RokStok in maple

    Yeah, I agree with highuintas. I dont think an arrow will help—maybe a solid piece of rod that size, but not a hollow arrow. If you arent worried you arent worried, and as he said dropping it on a recoil pad is a lot different than onto a hard buttplate. Cumulative recoil is a thing too though...

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