1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[TradLife406]

Yeah, my mirror and bathroom is messy...

 

[ianpadron]

Shot the DS Warrior today for the first time.

I'm a half step above novice with a pistol, have never really enjoyed shooting them, and have never found it intuitive. A goal this year is to catch up with my bolt gun know-how, and this thread pushed me in the right direction.

Shootability compared to the usual M&Ps I carry is noticeably better. Shot irons at 10m better than I ever have, and I'm actually excited about shooting a pistol.

Going to try to get to the range with it at least once a week this year and see how much I can improve.

Great thread.

 

[RockAndSage]

Shot the DS Warrior today for the first time.

I'm a half step above novice with a pistol, have never really enjoyed shooting them, and have never found it intuitive. A goal this year is to catch up with my bolt gun know-how, and this thread pushed me in the right direction.

Shootability compared to the usual M&Ps I carry is noticeably better. Shot irons at 10m better than I ever have, and I'm actually excited about shooting a pistol.

Going to try to get to the range with it at least once a week this year and see how much I can improve.

Great thread.

Nice, looking forward to hearing how the DS Warriors do, they look great so far.

If you want to really get a command of pistols, dry-firing 15 mins a night with one range session a week of less than 200rds, will put you much further ahead than one 500rd range session per week with no dry fire.

 

[ianpadron]

Nice, looking forward to hearing how the DS Warriors do, they look great so far.

If you want to really get a command of pistols, dry-firing 15 mins a night with one range session a week of less than 200rds, will put you much further ahead than one 500rd range session per week with no dry fire.

Great tip on the dry fire practice, will incorporate that for sure

 

[gabenzeke]

Never been a huge handgun guy, but I opened this thread a while back. So naturally this is going to cost me....

Anyone have experience with a GP Arms Forza? How does that compare to the kimber 2k11? I know they aren't the same in conceal ability, but in terms of function and reliability and accuracy, etc.

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[RussDXT]

I’d go to the 1911 Addict site to get first hand reviews. They seem to be well rated, and Gilbert answers the phone when called.

If I didn’t have my cs I’d look at one.

 

[RWT]

Small amount of satisfaction with completing your own repair AFTER you have a spring jump out during disassembly. It flew across the shop and landed behind the shelving unit that would take half a day to unload to move it. So out comes the telescoping magnet. You fish around and hear the “click”. Ahhhh I sigh out loud thinking, now I can figure out how to lower the trigger pull weight on the Tisas DS1911. I retrieve the magnet and reach down to remove the cobwebs and dead pill bugs for my prize. The spring that launched itself. Only to find my magnet picked up two springs of equal length and size. Now the fun begins.

As I cuss myself for not being better organized digging through the stack of gun manuals hoping I have one for this pistol. I realize I only have a Staccato C manual and it is not descriptive enough to be 100% certain which spring is required. So I press on to Utube and 17 videos later I call it a night after putting the gun back together 3 times and nothing functioned properly.

That evening with sore fingers from fighting the “removable” safety I have a thought. I need a spare 1911 extractors anyway so why not order a spring kit at the same time. I am also certain I bent the sear spring so badly it will not seat properly again. $100 later and Bill Wilson is lighting his cigar off my incompetence.

The next morning with a fresh attitude and new vigor I give the reassembly another try with the same result. I have a list of chores to complete before the sun is down, animals to feed, a garden to tend to and family obligations that are more pressing than my spare truck gun desires. While preparing for bed I watch one more video on reassembly and this time the eccentric individual provides greater detail than the last batch of wanna be gun smiths with description of the hammer position when removing the double sided safety and the ease of effort “once” every part is properly aligned. With a smile in my heart I know I will awake and have that pistol functioning before I leave to shoot in the morning.

My night of peaceful sleep was dashed when the next morning I only accomplished removing the and reassembly of the safety with greater ease. The pistol will not fire, the trigger refuses to move. Off to tend cows and shoot a few practice rounds at 200 yards. The Tisas DS will have to wait. Then another stroke of genius hits. I locate a sear spring on Amazon with 4 hr delivery. I don’t need to wait on Mr. Wilson and the outdated pony express postal service. Jeff Bezos capitalism may save my Sunday. The part should arrive by the time I am back this evening.

Upon my return the new sear spring is on the porch. I quickly tear the overly large package open and rush to the shop. This time I am truly excited. I have a factory set to compare with. I locate the last video that included detailed instructions for the safety removal. I follow intently this time and realize. I have not destroyed the original spring, but only twisted it to the point it would fall off the sear when the main spring assembly was installed. I rebend the sear spring to match the new spring more closely. I reassemble the pistol and amazing it functions perfectly. I test the trigger pull and I am quite pleased at 3.2lbs on average.

Unfortunately I am unable to shoot tomorrow due to work commitments, so I spend the day on conference calls dry firing in my office.

Today I test fired the Tisas DS successfully burning down 4 mags. Quite happy with the result and am much more confident I won’t be calling a gun smith or cussing John Browning or the foreseeable future.

If anyone could recommend a good 1911/2011 book on disassembly and reassembly I would appreciate. The internet won’t be around forever and I don’t have consistent service at the ranch.

 

[RockAndSage]

Small amount of satisfaction with completing your own repair AFTER you have a spring jump out during disassembly. It flew across the shop and landed behind the shelving unit that would take half a day to unload to move it. So out comes the telescoping magnet. You fish around and hear the “click”. Ahhhh I sigh out loud thinking, now I can figure out how to lower the trigger pull weight on the Tisas DS1911. I retrieve the magnet and reach down to remove the cobwebs and dead pill bugs for my prize. The spring that launched itself. Only to find my magnet picked up two springs of equal length and size. Now the fun begins.

As I cuss myself for not being better organized digging through the stack of gun manuals hoping I have one for this pistol. I realize I only have a Staccato C manual and it is not descriptive enough to be 100% certain which spring is required. So I press on to Utube and 17 videos later I call it a night after putting the gun back together 3 times and nothing functioned properly.

That evening with sore fingers from fighting the “removable” safety I have a thought. I need a spare 1911 extractors anyway so why not order a spring kit at the same time. I am also certain I bent the sear spring so badly it will not seat properly again. $100 later and Bill Wilson is lighting his cigar off my incompetence.

The next morning with a fresh attitude and new vigor I give the reassembly another try with the same result. I have a list of chores to complete before the sun is down, animals to feed, a garden to tend to and family obligations that are more pressing than my spare truck gun desires. While preparing for bed I watch one more video on reassembly and this time the eccentric individual provides greater detail than the last batch of wanna be gun smiths with description of the hammer position when removing the double sided safety and the ease of effort “once” every part is properly aligned. With a smile in my heart I know I will awake and have that pistol functioning before I leave to shoot in the morning.

My night of peaceful sleep was dashed when the next morning I only accomplished removing the and reassembly of the safety with greater ease. The pistol will not fire, the trigger refuses to move. Off to tend cows and shoot a few practice rounds at 200 yards. The Tisas DS will have to wait. Then another stroke of genius hits. I locate a sear spring on Amazon with 4 hr delivery. I don’t need to wait on Mr. Wilson and the outdated pony express postal service. Jeff Bezos capitalism may save my Sunday. The part should arrive by the time I am back this evening.

Upon my return the new sear spring is on the porch. I quickly tear the overly large package open and rush to the shop. This time I am truly excited. I have a factory set to compare with. I locate the last video that included detailed instructions for the safety removal. I follow intently this time and realize. I have not destroyed the original spring, but only twisted it to the point it would fall off the sear when the main spring assembly was installed. I rebend the sear spring to match the new spring more closely. I reassemble the pistol and amazing it functions perfectly. I test the trigger pull and I am quite pleased at 3.2lbs on average.

Unfortunately I am unable to shoot tomorrow due to work commitments, so I spend the day on conference calls dry firing in my office.

Today I test fired the Tisas DS successfully burning down 4 mags. Quite happy with the result and am much more confident I won’t be calling a gun smith or cussing John Browning or the foreseeable future.

If anyone could recommend a good 1911/2011 book on disassembly and reassembly I would appreciate. The internet won’t be around forever and I don’t have consistent service at the ranch.

Experience is that thing you get, right after you actually needed it. You're in good company.

With books, IIRC the 1911 Owners Guide books by Walt Kuleck, and a couple of the 1911 gunsmithing ones by Sweeney, are pretty solid, though it's been a long time since I've cracked into one. Not sure if there's newer stuff out there in print format for 2011s, but other than early gen 2011 mags, I'm not aware of anything problematic that's any different from 1911s in terms of reliability and maintenance.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Anyone have experience with a GP Arms Forza?

I’m at 11 weeks right now, waiting for my Forza non ported/steel frame.

 

[RWT]

I’m at 11 weeks right now, waiting for my Forza non ported/steel frame.

I am very curious why we don’t see more polymer framed single stacks 1911’s to save weight. Seems like a better carry option.

 

[RockAndSage]

I am very curious why we don’t see more polymer framed single stacks 1911’s to save weight. Seems like a better carry option.

That's an interesting observation...IIRC, the original Staccato C was a polymer-framed single stack, but I can't think of any others out there. That said, there aren't too many situations I can imagine though, where there'd be enough of an advantage in saving a 1/4" or so in width, to make up for the loss of 7 or 8 rounds of capacity.

 

[Howler65]

I’m at 11 weeks right now, waiting for my Forza non ported/steel frame.

Why this over the CS?

 

[Howler65]

That's an interesting observation...IIRC, the original Staccato C was a polymer-framed single stack, but I can't think of any others out there. That said, there aren't too many situations I can imagine though, where there'd be enough of an advantage in saving a 1/4" or so in width, to make up for the loss of 7 or 8 rounds of capacity.

I have both a single stack OG C and a compact grip C…3.5oz weight difference between the two loaded. Love both pistols, nod to the 2024 C though…

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Why this over the CS?

I wanted to try a little heavier gun than the aluminum CS and the reviews of Gilbert’s work are all glowing.

 

[RockAndSage]

I wanted to try a little heavier gun than the aluminum CS and the reviews of Gilbert’s work are all glowing.

Any idea on how much longer you can expect for that Forza to arrive?

 

[Hooked]

I’ve learned a lot reading through this thread and other threads on Rokslide regarding selecting a shootable pistol. I have not read much about how sight radius impacts pistol selection.

I am a novice pistol shooter and plan on buying a 2011. The Staccato HD P4 and P4.5 appear to be good choices, but I have a concern. I will primarily carry the pistol in a chest holster. Due to the pistol being in the elements, I do not intend to use a red dot. Is the Staccato HD series a poor choice due to the short sight radius? Would I be better off looking into a Kimber 2K11 that offers a longer sight radius?

I’m interested to hear how others factored in the importance of sight radius when selecting a highly shootable pistol.

 

[huntsman22]

put a cover on the reddot...... no biggie.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Due to the pistol being in the elements

Can't you just use an enclosed red dot?

 

[huntsman22]

I keep covers on my enclosed ones, too.....

 

[RockAndSage]

I’ve learned a lot reading through this thread and other threads on Rokslide regarding selecting a shootable pistol. I have not read much about how sight radius impacts pistol selection.

I am a novice pistol shooter and plan on buying a 2011. The Staccato HD P4 and P4.5 appear to be good choices, but I have a concern. I will primarily carry the pistol in a chest holster. Due to the pistol being in the elements, I do not intend to use a red dot. Is the Staccato HD series a poor choice due to the short sight radius? Would I be better off looking into a Kimber 2K11 that offers a longer sight radius?

I’m interested to hear how others factored in the importance of sight radius when selecting a highly shootable pistol.

At self-defense distances, sight-radius differences in accuracy at speed are pretty minimal. Especially with the blocky sights that are on almost all your common handguns. You'd probably have to stretch a shot out past 50yds for a longer sight-radius to start providing a meaningful benefit. Especially as a novice pistol shooter. It's not an issue I'd be concerned about in practical realities.