How to end NR Wyoming wilderness ban?

[wapitibob]

Partner asked "you really gonna shoot that Elk next to the hwy"; "oh hell yea, we're in Wyoming."

 

[UpNorth89]

Partner asked "you really gonna shoot that Elk next to the hwy"; "oh hell yea, we're in Wyoming."

Better take advantage of an easy pack whenever you can!

 

[wyosam]

Us residents who live nearby and are there several times a month for the 5 months it is accessable year after year for the decades we have lived here, understand the ways through, the exceptionally unaccessible terrain, the many miles needed to access roads or help, and the constantly changing weather in Wyoming. Having some unprepared back packers who are not from the area get 15 miles in to find out it will be below freezing at night in september is not a great introduction to the state for visitors.

I lived in Wyoming for 30 some years. It’s stupid, and there isn’t a way to rationalize it that makes any sense. “Not from the area” is pretty vague. Is someone who moved to Pine Bluffs from Florida 366 days before the opener, and has never been west of hwy 85 somehow safer in the Absaroka or the Gros Ventre than a guy born and raised in Red Lodge? All those laws are stupid. After 12 months here in AK, I became just fine to hunt Sheep, Goats, and Brown bears, but I definitely need a guide to go back to Wyoming and hunt the places I killed dozens of elk over 3 decades. There some of the wilderness areas have some pretty nasty terrain, but there’s also places like Savage Run and the Encampment down south that don’t begin to compare to many non-wilderness areas in Western WY. I hunted them for years before I moved to western Wyoming and started spending most of my time there. Some of the dumbest things I’ve seen done, and some of the worst unethical, slovenly behavior was residents.

Serious hunters are serious hunters, weekend warriors who have their annual armed booze fest in the mountains are generally of about the same caliber regardless of where they’re from. The latter are a lot less likely to put in the effort to draw a non res tag than pick one up at the gas station on their way out of town.


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[Ralphie]

I don’t think the law is stupid and it makes plenty of sense. It’s a perk for residents.

 

[wyosam]

I don’t think the law is stupid and it makes plenty of sense. It’s a perk for residents.

It makes sense as a perk for residents and outfitters. Just stop justifying it there. Those are fine reasons, and everything else is just obvious nonsense.


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[Jason Snyder]

but there’s also places like Savage Run and the Encampment down south that don’t begin to compare to many non-wilderness areas in Western WY

Hey, it sleeted there last week.

 

[OKHunter84]

I think the Wyoming rule is a joke. I could see how you might like it if you are a resident, I would still acknowledge how ridiculous it is, but enjoy the benefits.

I put it in the same boat as the New Mexico 84 / 10 / 6 tag allocation. Like it if you're a resident, not so much if you're a NR.

The weather changing fast argument or terrain is plain silly. I've been tree stand hunting in NW OK and seen it go from 85 degrees and drop to 35 with a strong north wind in a little over an hour. Go jump into the Pecos wilderness in New Mexico or any other multitude of wilderness areas in the lower 48 and tell me the terrain isn't rough.

 

[Spence1875]

I am moving there next year. So all for it. Lol

 

[HunterGatherer]

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A few years back, shortly after our family moved into a new home, I killed a cow elk in the federally designated wilderness area just a mile from my back door. It wasn’t until after I had notched my tag, quartered the elk and packed the meat down the mountain that I realized how lucky I was to...

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[LongWayAround]

Hey, it sleeted there last week.

For two days it rained and had fog.

You clearly don't understand the dire situation.

 

[Neckbone]

How is the pressure in the wilderness areas of WY compared to the non wilderness?

 

[Jason Snyder]

How is the pressure in the wilderness areas of WY compared to the non wilderness?

Honestly, sometimes it’s higher than what you find outside of it.

 

[robtattoo]

Hey, it sleeted there last week.

For two days it rained and had fog.

You clearly don't understand the dire situation.

I shall lovingly mourn the loss of you both
I enjoyed both of your posts & I'm sorry to hear of your early passings.

I truly thank the Old Gods that I survived all of this at 10,000' in a *gasps* NON WILDERNESS AREA a couple of years ago And me, an ACTUAL foreigner & habitual flatlander!

Tuesday....

Wednesday....

 

[ozyclint]

United States you say?

Threads like this make the USA look like a union of 50 different countries.

 

[ThorM465]

United States you say?

Threads like this make the USA look like a union of 50 different countries.

That's near literally what we were until the Civil War. It's what our Constitution was originally designed to handle.

 

[ozyclint]

In Australia, different states might have different laws but everyone has the same rights in whatever state you go to.

 

[wyosam]

How is the pressure in the wilderness areas of WY compared to the non wilderness?

Depends. Pressure near trails and access points can be pretty high. Most of my go to places to get away from pressure were outside wilderness.


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[MNGrouser]

I lived in Wyoming for 30 some years. It’s stupid, and there isn’t a way to rationalize it that makes any sense. “Not from the area” is pretty vague. Is someone who moved to Pine Bluffs from Florida 366 days before the opener, and has never been west of hwy 85 somehow safer in the Absaroka or the Gros Ventre than a guy born and raised in Red Lodge? All those laws are stupid. After 12 months here in AK, I became just fine to hunt Sheep, Goats, and Brown bears, but I definitely need a guide to go back to Wyoming and hunt the places I killed dozens of elk over 3 decades. There some of the wilderness areas have some pretty nasty terrain, but there’s also places like Savage Run and the Encampment down south that don’t begin to compare to many non-wilderness areas in Western WY. I hunted them for years before I moved to western Wyoming and started spending most of my time there. Some of the dumbest things I’ve seen done, and some of the worst unethical, slovenly behavior was residents.

Serious hunters are serious hunters, weekend warriors who have their annual armed booze fest in the mountains are generally of about the same caliber regardless of where they’re from. The latter are a lot less likely to put in the effort to draw a non res tag than pick one up at the gas station on their way out of town.


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Mic drop by @wyosam ! Hopefully we are done.