Maven RS.3 5-30x50 FFP mil/mil Q&A

[sndmn11]

Maven RS.3 5-30x50 FFP mil/mil Q&A

Eval here https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/maven-rs-3-5-30x50-ffp-mil-mil-field-evaluation.251006/

 

[Formidilosus]

The effort is good and I certainly appreciate it. I do have some questions and some comments if you would-

1). That’s the third Grayboe I have seen break at the wrist- two in person with no abuse put on them, one came out of a padded case with only a duffel bag on top of it.

2). How have you accounted for potential (real) shift in action to stock, and the mounting bases?

3). Have you proofed the rifle with any other scope to ensure that the rifle itself remains zeroed from impacts?


There are a couple more, but those are the big ones.

I can say the direction that the shifts happened indicate that it is in fact the scope shifting, but those variables must be eliminated.

 

[sndmn11]

The effort is good and I certainly appreciate it. I do have some questions and some comments if you would-

1). That’s the third Grayboe I have seen break at the wrist- two in person with no abuse put on them, one came out of a padded case with only a duffel bag on top of it.

2). How have you accounted for potential (real) shift in action to stock, and the mounting bases?

3). Have you proofed the rifle with any other scope to ensure that the rifle itself remains zeroed from impacts?


There are a couple more, but those are the big ones.

I can say the direction that the shifts happened indicate that it is in fact the scope shifting, but those variables must be eliminated.

Great points, I have not but will. The only other stock I have for a tikka is a bell and carlson. I sent them the video to see if they thought their stock would stay together for this and am awaiting their reply.

I have at my disposal:
(2) SHV 4-14 F1
(2) LRTS 3-10
(1) LRTS 4-18
(1) 6x SWFA
Which would you suggest is the best bet for proofing the rifle set up?

 

[Formidilosus]

I have at my disposal:
(2) SHV 4-14 F1
(2) LRTS 3-10
(1) LRTS 4-18
(1) 6x SWFA
Which would you suggest is the best bet for proofing the rifle set up?

SHV F1

 

[Ucsdryder]

I like the transparency of the video review! Well done!

 

[BRTreedogs]

Well the fact they ok with dropping it, hopefully they are at least looking to improve.

Any plans to do the further drops on the RS lone you previously reviewed?

 

[sndmn11]

Well the fact they ok with dropping it, hopefully they are at least looking to improve.

Any plans to do the further drops on the RS lone you previously reviewed?

My plan will be to proof the rifle system via drop test in a new stock with one of the above scopes. If that can be done, I will retest the RS.3 with the drop test only. I got a note from @Formidilosus that the hard compacted dirt of my range is too much. We settled on a Z-rest mat as a good replication of the ground that he has.

If you are asking about the CRS.2, no, I will not be dropping it in this manner. My perspective and reasoning for that is it is a 1" scope at 16oz not designed with any sort of "tactical" type application like these 30-34mm scopes are. Its long term testing will be on a 6.5lb 300wsm. I think in analogies a lot, and this one to me would be like grabbing P truck tires to go on my half ton, and expecting to tow a loaded horse trailer with joy.

 

[BRTreedogs]

My plan will be to proof the rifle system via drop test in a new stock with one of the above scopes. If that can be done, I will retest the RS.3 with the drop test only. I got a note from @Formidilosus that the hard compacted dirt of my range is too much. We settled on a Z-rest mat as a good replication of the ground that he has.

If you are asking about the CRS.2, no, I will not be dropping it in this manner. My perspective and reasoning for that is it is a 1" scope at 16oz not designed with any sort of "tactical" type application like these 30-34mm scopes are. Its long term testing will be on a 6.5lb 300wsm. I think in analogies a lot, and this one to me would be like grabbing P truck tires to go on my half ton, and expecting to tow a loaded horse trailer with joy.

Copy that.
Do you have any idea if the crs1 has the same internals as the crs2?
I need a point and shoot for a coyote gun.
Was going to do a Trijicon but the eye relief is much further then these scopes and I have a problem getting the scope far enough forward on this gun.

 

[sndmn11]

Copy that.
Do you have any idea if the crs1 has the same internals as the crs2?
I need a point and shoot for a coyote gun.
Was going to do a Trijicon but the eye relief is much further then these scopes and I have a problem getting the scope far enough forward on this gun.

"Same" meaning component quality, material, construction methods? Yes, I was told all of their riflescopes adhere to this whether RS.x or CRS.x. Of course I have not opened any of them up to confirm.

"Same" in a literal sense? No because CRS.1 is fixed parallax and CRS.2 is adjustable, while the RS series is different tube diameters except the RS.2.

 

[BRTreedogs]

"Same" meaning component quality, material, construction methods? Yes, I was told all of their riflescopes adhere to this whether RS.x or CRS.x. Of course I have not opened any of them up to confirm.

"Same" in a literal sense? No because CRS.1 is fixed parallax and CRS.2 is adjustable, while the RS series is different tube diameters except the RS.2.

I just mean the erector.
Thank you

 

[sndmn11]

SHV F1

Baseline groups today in the BC stock at the indoor range.

 

[RyanT26]

Proofing scopes and stocks on this one.

 

[ljalberta]

That is an incredible video. Thanks for doing this. Looking forward to re-test.

 

[Ryan Avery]

That stock is a POS. That is the third one I have seen snap there.

Eliminating variables is the hardest part of these tests.

 

[sndmn11]

If I can get a helper I think I'll be able to retry this weekend.

 

[Ucsdryder]

If I can get a helper I think I'll be able to retry this weekend.

Well if you weren’t trying to drive to UTAH!!!!

 

[sndmn11]

Updated https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/maven-rs-3-5-30x50-ffp-mil-mil-field-evaluation.251006/

 

[BjornF16]

So it looks like drops caused significant shifts?

 

[sndmn11]

So it looks like drops caused significant shifts?

That is up to you if they are significant or not I suppose, I am not the conclusion-er. 18" drops seemed happy. The biggest was 36" on the right/windage #4. The 36" top/elevation is #5 was closer to zero but low left, 36" left/parallax was further left, 36" nine drop #7 further left.

The whole green dot is 3" the black outline within is 1.5".

 

[BjornF16]

That is up to you if they are significant or not I suppose, I am not the conclusion-er. 18" drops seemed happy. The biggest was 36" on the right/windage #4. The 36" top/elevation is #5 was closer to zero but low left, 36" left/parallax was further left, 36" nine drop #7 further left.

The whole green dot is 3" the black outline within is 1.5".

If I'm reading this right, #4 shot was ~4" low...well outside your established 10 shot average.
In fact, it looks like all 36" drops were outside the baseline average.

Did you take a shot after the shifted 36" drop prior to the next drop to see if the reticle reset itself?