Newberg says a $40 elk tag (or whatever it cost) is a $25,000 elk tag for residents.

[Douglasr]

Found this…

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

Colorado Parks and Wildlife is a nationally recognized leader in conservation, outdoor recreation and wildlife management. The agency manages 42 state parks, all of Colorado's wildlife, more than 300 state wildlife areas and a host of recreational programs. CPW issues hunting and fishing...

cpw.state.co.us

Yeah, I’m pretty sure you could work at copper mountain, live in employee housing and get a resident license.

 

[1jeds]

A lot of people here are twisting this into a cost of living discussion, that isn't what Randy said. He said they took a pay cut, which is specific to his job and his situation. I personally moved out west, and did not take a pay cut. Anecdote works both ways.

 

[McCrapper]

This Texan would pay a little more to up my odds for a tag.

 

[flathead#2]

I dont watch much of his stuff,,,, even less now.
I mean,,,,I make less money, so you have to pay more.
Been hearing a lot of that the past few years.

 

[Dos Perros]

I'll make you a deal. When I show up with the millions I've saved for retirement and bid up the land you wanted to buy for my retirement pad you have forfeited your right to bitch about it.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

A lot of people here are twisting this into a cost of living discussion, that isn't what Randy said. He said they took a pay cut, which is specific to his job and his situation. I personally moved out west, and did not take a pay cut. Anecdote works both ways.

The video said job pay cut, the OP’s comment stated paying more to live there. I guess both irrelevant discussions are up for debate.

 

[180ls1]

A lot of people here are twisting this into a cost of living discussion, that isn't what Randy said. He said they took a pay cut, which is specific to his job and his situation. I personally moved out west, and did not take a pay cut. Anecdote works both ways.

I think its reasonable to point out the potential issues on single/limited factor analysis when discussing these topics. Many people overweight the effects of income when it comes to affordability.

 

[roadrunner]

A lot of people here are twisting this into a cost of living discussion, that isn't what Randy said. He said they took a pay cut, which is specific to his job and his situation. I personally moved out west, and did not take a pay cut. Anecdote works both ways.

Yes, this is what he said. The part from the video when he said he was at the state legislature and the $12 tag at the time for a resident cost him $25k to be able to get the same tag as a resident when he moved to MT.

In other words, most residents don't realize how good they have it...


The thread title doesn't really match the OP.

 

[2-Stix]

I will take a huge pay cut when we move. Thats his point. I run a design build firm, average 100-200k a year. When we move I will make about 75k and work for someone full time with 2 weeks off, vs the 8 I take off and full flexablity. All of life has pros and cons.

By his point that elk tag will cost me 25-125k, ha.

 

[1jeds]

The video said job pay cut, the OP’s comment stated paying more to live there. I guess both irrelevant discussions are up for debate.

For sure, and both are circumstantial. Florida was mentioned in the first post - moving from South Florida to Idaho or Montana will likely not be an increase in cost of living (quite the opposite).

 

[180ls1]

 

[ScreamingPotato]

I didn't listen/watch the Newberg stuff but it ain't that expensive to live in Cheyenne, Boise, Bozeman, insert any big blue city in Western states... It's not like every R hunter has to buy a place in Jackson Hole or something. Both my older boys lived in Cheyenne for several years, they made good money for what they did, one took a pay cut to get back to Texas and the other came back without a job lined up but he did end up making more with a lucky score I hooked him up with.

 

[Dos Perros]

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It appears $25k is more like $0k.

 

[drdrop]

I limited my career opportunities by choosing to stay in Wyoming after earning an advanced degree. However, in the post-pandemic remote work era, opportunities have grown and career sacrifices are narrower.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

I limited my career opportunities by choosing to stay in Wyoming after earning an advanced degree. However, in the post-pandemic remote work era, opportunities have grown and career sacrifices are narrower.

I've been working 100% remotely since 2017, and that's one good thing that came of the whole pandemic panic is there's a LOT more remote opportunities across all industries now.

 

[drdrop]

I've been working 100% remotely since 2017, and that's one good thing that came of the whole pandemic panic is there's a LOT more remote opportunities across all industries now.

Agreed. The harsh reality is that not every industry/career can be remote. Another undesirable consequence is there is less holding people back on moving to formerly less inhabited areas, adding development pressures to the habitats we all care about.

 

[ianpadron]

Dang, the butt hurt is hard with this one….

I refuse to give Newberg a listen and boost his hits, but I believe the argument is in response to NR that complain their tag is 700 and a resident tag is 40. It’s really expensive to live in Colorado vs most other states, so you’re way better off paying an extra 660 dollars in tag vs buying a house, paying taxes, etc in Colorado.

Wow, someone with actual comprehension skills...impressive and refreshing tbh

 

[backcountry_hunter]

I've been working 100% remotely since 2017, and that's one good thing that came of the whole pandemic panic is there's a LOT more remote opportunities across all industries now.

"Good thing" would depend on who you ask. I lived/worked in a very rural area pre-plandemic. It was pleasant, quiet and very enjoyable. Because of seemingly EVERYONE's ability to work remote, all of our "public land owners" have decided they need to be here also.

 

[Mike7]

If you choose to live out of state, you can bitch and complain, but really that should have little to no effect on things in the end. As an out of state hunter, not purchasing expensive tags would speak loudest.

I enjoy visiting Montana from out of state to hike and hunt. Thank you Montana residents for making this affordable enough for me to do.

Residents of course vote for the idiots managing things and have the final say as they should.

 

[chasewild]

I refuse to give Newberg a listen and boost his hits, but I believe the argument is in response to NR that complain their tag is 700 and a resident tag is 40. It’s really expensive to live in Colorado vs most other states, so you’re way better off paying an extra 660 dollars in tag vs buying a house, paying taxes, etc in Colorado.

Agree.

Notably, HT has a thread on this. 24 pages!!!