Scope mounting to maintain zero

[Pwb199]

I’ve probably missed it - but have there been any drop tests comparing UM tikka rings to the sportsmatch rings? And any conclusive evidence that the UM rings hold zero better? Only asking because of the price difference, and I own a few sets of sportsmatch rings already.

 

[atmat]

I’ve probably missed it - but have there been any drop tests comparing UM tikka rings to the sportsmatch rings? And any conclusive evidence that the UM rings hold zero better? Only asking because of the price difference, and I own a few sets of sportsmatch rings already.

They are both going to be fine. Plenty of drop tests with both.

The UM for me win out for availability and multiple recoil pin locations.

 

[TitsMcGee]

Nightforce, Geissele.

22in-ibs on the rings as well for these?

 

[JohnJohnson]

Has anyone used Area419 rings and done more than 18 in/lbs torque on the fasteners? I'm considering getting some but for a ring with 4 screws it would be nice to be able to torque over 18 in/lbs. It would be for a Nightforce scope so I feel like it could take more than 18.

 

[NSI]

Has anyone used Area419 rings and done more than 18 in/lbs torque on the fasteners? I'm considering getting some but for a ring with 4 screws it would be nice to be able to torque over 18 in/lbs. It would be for a Nightforce scope so I feel like it could take more than 18.

paging @huntnful

-J

 

[DoveBlaster]

Has anyone used Area419 rings and done more than 18 in/lbs torque on the fasteners? I'm considering getting some but for a ring with 4 screws it would be nice to be able to torque over 18 in/lbs. It would be for a Nightforce scope so I feel like it could take more than 18.

I have switched to all Area 419 Tactical One-Piece mounts early this year for my bolt action rifles with great success. I have been going to 20-25 in/lbs on NX8 and ATACR scopes. I have around 5,000+ rounds of 6.5CM and 6 Dasher fired and 1,000s of miles traveled by car and one plane trip with no zero loss to date.

 

[Short Track]

I started researching. Swaro mandates 18" pounds. DNZ says like 22-25 pounds. Something like that... Swarovski says 22-25 will bind the internals. I give up when I see contradictory information.

 

[Castle Rock]

You should give up when you see Swarovski

 

[wind gypsy]

I started researching. Swaro mandates 18" pounds. DNZ says like 22-25 pounds. Something like that... Swarovski says 22-25 will bind the internals. I give up when I see contradictory information.

They are telling you they build dainty delicate scopes.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

They are telling you they build dainty delicate scopes.

And they are just fine with that.


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“Keep on keepin’ on…”

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

paging @huntnful

-J

He was busy scouting should be back now. @huntnful

 

[huntnful]

He was busy scouting should be back now. @huntnful

Im back in action lol.

I torque the ring caps to 22in lbs and the ring to rail at 50in lbs.

 

[Short Track]

They are telling you they build dainty delicate scopes.

With the best glass......

 

[JohnJohnson]

With the best glass......

Which is great for the observation devices they make, love their binoculars. Not so much for their aiming devices.

 

[Short Track]

Which is great for the observation devices they make, love their binoculars. Not so much for their aiming devices.

As my eyes age, I had to move from the Z6 50mm, to the Z8 56mm. Definitely made a difference in my ability to lock on target. Especially in heavily wooded areas with lots of low hanging branches.

 

[wapitispokes]

I ASSUMED the lubrication on the rail and ring base clamp was to allow the parts to slide into a tight fitting position rather than have friction cause the fastener to reach specified torque without the pieces having slid into full lock up position.

I must have missed the part about floating and return to zero.

I think there likely is some validity to lubricant allowing the anodized aluminum or parkerized steel wedge clamp pieces to move into their ultimate lock up position without galling or deforming parts.
But, I don’t lube such wedge clamps and am blissfully unaware of experiencing issues caused by not lubricating them.

This is a bit of an old thread, but I'm glad you correctly summarized the findings.

This has been a fun read but growing boring....Its as if people don't read the guy's article on what his research entailed and what the theories were about why lubricating the clamping location reduced movement ... (he didn't say "eliminated all movement" either like someone summarized).

Thanks for the quick notes summary for those who don't seem to read very carefully and yet criticize the guy who did the research...