The 22 creedmoor thread

[RockChukkar]

Ammo | 22 Creedmoor

Kaspar Outdoors

shop.22creedmoor.com

I believe that is the only place you can buy hornady ammo for the 22 Creedmoor even

Ammo | 22 Creedmoor

Kaspar Outdoors

shop.22creedmoor.com

I believe that is the only place you can buy hornady ammo for the 22 creedmoor

And they are oos. I’m thinking about ordering a criterion in 22cm for my mackbros. I do reload but I like starting with a case of loaded for the brass.

In other news I picked up 200rds of blackhills 6cm 108eldm’s for $257 shipped today. About can’t reload them for that lol.

 

[270quest]

Took the tikka to the range this past weekend and got the first 35 rounds down the tube. Using Fed 210, Hornady new brass, H4350, and 80 grain ELDX. I did 15 at 35g, 5@ 35.5, 5@36, [email protected], and 5@37. Mainly wanted to see where I hit pressure and it happened at 36.5. 37 had good ejector marks and was hot. Velocity at 36.5 on the 19" barrel (no suppressor- still in jail) was around 2875-2900... Just not quite where I was hoping to be.

I know it will speed up with more rounds down the tube, But I was really hoping to over 3k. Ordered 200 77 TMKs and going to load those up and see what the velocity will do. If I can get the 77s to 3k, anything over that will be a plus. Anyone running this bullet with H4350? It seems, that what I have read, 4350 teams really well with the sub 80 grain bullets?

On a side note - good news is the rifle is going to be a shooter - all 35 rounds were in tight clusters. I need to get another 70-100 rounds down it and see how the barrel settles in.

The temporary Arken tracked well and the reticle was pretty user friendly, but not a fan of the eye relief or eye box - cant wait for the S&B to get off backorder - if it ever does.

 

[willfrye027]

Took the tikka to the range this past weekend and got the first 30 rounds down the tube. Using Fed 210, Hornady new brass, H4350, and 80 grain ELDX. I did 15 at 35g, 5@ 35.5, 5@36, [email protected], and 5@37. Mainly wanted to see where I hit pressure and it happened at 36.5. 37 had good ejector marks and was hot. Velocity at 36.5 on the 19" barrel (no suppressor- still in jail) was around 2875-2900... Just not quite where I was hoping to be.

I know it will speed up with more rounds down the tube, But I was really hoping to over 3k. Ordered 200 77 TMKs and going to load those up and see what the velocity will do. If I can get the 77s to 3k, anything over that will be a plus. Anyone running this bullet with H4350? It seems, that what I have read, 4350 teams really well with the sub 80 grain bullets?

On a side note - good news is the rifle is going to be a shooter - all 30 rounds were in tight clusters. I need to get another 70-100 rounds down it and see how the barrel settles in.

The temporary Arken tracked well and the reticle was pretty user friendly, but not a fan of the eye relief or eye box - cant wait for the S&B to get off backorder - if it ever does.

If you are hitting pressure at 37gr, you can probably squeeze more velocity with a slower burning powder. I’d try n555, h4831sc, maybe RL23, Staball 6.5. Something just a smidge slower burning will get you more case fill and probably a
And a bit more velocity too.

 

[SouthPaw]

Took the tikka to the range this past weekend and got the first 35 rounds down the tube. Using Fed 210, Hornady new brass, H4350, and 80 grain ELDX. I did 15 at 35g, 5@ 35.5, 5@36, [email protected], and 5@37. Mainly wanted to see where I hit pressure and it happened at 36.5. 37 had good ejector marks and was hot. Velocity at 36.5 on the 19" barrel (no suppressor- still in jail) was around 2875-2900... Just not quite where I was hoping to be.

I know it will speed up with more rounds down the tube, But I was really hoping to over 3k. Ordered 200 77 TMKs and going to load those up and see what the velocity will do. If I can get the 77s to 3k, anything over that will be a plus. Anyone running this bullet with H4350? It seems, that what I have read, 4350 teams really well with the sub 80 grain bullets?

On a side note - good news is the rifle is going to be a shooter - all 35 rounds were in tight clusters. I need to get another 70-100 rounds down it and see how the barrel settles in.

The temporary Arken tracked well and the reticle was pretty user friendly, but not a fan of the eye relief or eye box - cant wait for the S&B to get off backorder - if it ever does.

Give it some time. My 20" 22cm sped way up around 120-150rds. 79/80g now comfortably do around 3200fps with H4831sc.

 

[ACHILLES]

What’s the word on factory hornady ammo availability for the 22 cm. Haven’t seen it since it was first released.

I’ve been seeing it on the shelves for months now at a local store. Saw it yesterday and they had a lot more than pictured.

 

[SoTxShooter]

I’ve been seeing it on the shelves for months now at a local store. Saw it yesterday and they had a lot more than pictured.
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That's great to see, especially since we're from the same state! Are you in the Odessa area by chance? I have a friend that lives out there and he spends a lot of time at Ally.

 

[ACHILLES]

It’s a great store and the largest indoor gun range in the state. My company has a yard in Odessa but Im further east.

 

[Rieckman]

Took the tikka to the range this past weekend and got the first 35 rounds down the tube. Using Fed 210, Hornady new brass, H4350, and 80 grain ELDX. I did 15 at 35g, 5@ 35.5, 5@36, [email protected], and 5@37. Mainly wanted to see where I hit pressure and it happened at 36.5. 37 had good ejector marks and was hot. Velocity at 36.5 on the 19" barrel (no suppressor- still in jail) was around 2875-2900... Just not quite where I was hoping to be.

I know it will speed up with more rounds down the tube, But I was really hoping to over 3k. Ordered 200 77 TMKs and going to load those up and see what the velocity will do. If I can get the 77s to 3k, anything over that will be a plus. Anyone running this bullet with H4350? It seems, that what I have read, 4350 teams really well with the sub 80 grain bullets?

On a side note - good news is the rifle is going to be a shooter - all 35 rounds were in tight clusters. I need to get another 70-100 rounds down it and see how the barrel settles in.

The temporary Arken tracked well and the reticle was pretty user friendly, but not a fan of the eye relief or eye box - cant wait for the S&B to get off backorder - if it ever does.

I haven't settled on a load but I'm getting close to 3200 on a 20" proof with a can using H4350 and 80 eldm. I didn't have any ejector marks or flattened primers. Barrel is new, still sub 50 rounds on it. I'm going to try and get some 77 tmks this weekend from a buddy.

 

[TX_Diver]

Moving back to midland/Odessa/Hobbs soon so guess I’ll tag in.

Also interested in the 22cm. Originally I thought I heard the bc of an 88 Eldm was higher than a 143eldx (and therefore better wind #) but looking at hornadys site it looks like the 143eld x is higher. Maybe I read that it was higher than the 108.

Anyways, how do the ballistics compare to a 143eldx at ~2600fps (18” tikka barrel with 42.3gr of H4350 if I remember right).

Aside from reduced recoil would I gain much?

 

[RockChukkar]

I’ve been seeing it on the shelves for months now at a local store. Saw it yesterday and they had a lot more than pictured.
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Nice! Hopefully the popularity blows up and other manufacturers like Norma and BH start producing 22cm.

Eta: I went on hornady’s webpage to look at their 22cm offering and it’s not on there.

 

[ACHILLES]

Moving back to midland/Odessa/Hobbs soon so guess I’ll tag in.

Also interested in the 22cm. Originally I thought I heard the bc of an 88 Eldm was higher than a 143eldx (and therefore better wind #) but looking at hornadys site it looks like the 143eld x is higher. Maybe I read that it was higher than the 108.

Anyways, how do the ballistics compare to a 143eldx at ~2600fps (18” tikka barrel with 42.3gr of H4350 if I remember right).

Aside from reduced recoil would I gain much?

Reduced recoil is it really but its worth enough to me with an 8lb rig. I shoot a 18” 6.5creed 140 bergers 2610fps and with my 18” 22creed, factory 80gr elds run 3070fps. Looking at AB wind drift a 1000yards is almost identical comparing the 143 vs 80 favoring the 80 just slightly. But I need to take them out to shoot side by side one day.

 

[SouthPaw]

Moving back to midland/Odessa/Hobbs soon so guess I’ll tag in.

Also interested in the 22cm. Originally I thought I heard the bc of an 88 Eldm was higher than a 143eldx (and therefore better wind #) but looking at hornadys site it looks like the 143eld x is higher. Maybe I read that it was higher than the 108.

Anyways, how do the ballistics compare to a 143eldx at ~2600fps (18” tikka barrel with 42.3gr of H4350 if I remember right).

Aside from reduced recoil would I gain much?

Its a substantial drop in recoil from 6.5cm to 22cm, and the impact speeds of the bullet at all realistic hunting distances is higher with the 88g/22cm. Wind bracket mph number is similar.

 

[ElPollo]

Here's a good option for the lead-free folks:

79g DRT at 3200 fps.

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Have you figured out what velocity that bullet needs to open yet? I’ll bet it’s a long way out there with that gun.

 

[SouthPaw]

Have you figured out what velocity that bullet needs to open yet? I’ll bet it’s a long way out there with that gun.

I don't have an exact lower limit velocity number, but impact velocities with the DRTs in the 2k fps range resulted in complete fragmentation. Thus I'd be comfortable a bit below that. With the 22cm its farther than I have any business shooting at animals.

 

[Castle Rock]

Reduced recoil is it really but its worth enough to me with an 8lb rig. I shoot a 18” 6.5creed 140 bergers 2610fps and with my 18” 22creed, factory 80gr elds run 3070fps. Looking at AB wind drift a 1000yards is almost identical comparing the 143 vs 80 favoring the 80 just slightly. But I need to take them out to shoot side by side one day.

There is a big difference in mid range trajectory which means with 6.5 you are doing much more ranging and dialling rather than point and shoot

 

[Tail_Hunter]

Have you figured out what velocity that bullet needs to open yet? I’ll bet it’s a long way out there with that gun.

According to Dustin at DRT the minimum velocity for fragmentation with the 79gr bullet is 1600 -1800 fps.

 

[ElPollo]

According to Dustin at DRT the minimum velocity for fragmentation with the 79gr bullet is 1600 -1800 fps.

I appreciate the fact that DRT posts these numbers, but it’s always good to confirm with outside sources.

 

[Miflatlander91]

Loaded some 88s with h1000 last weekend got a pretty unexpected jump in velocity over reloader 23 with a light Jane and an 18” barrel I averaging 3050. I have some 85.5 bergers to try but they will have to shoot awfully good to get me to switch at this point especially since I can’t find much on how they do terminally and I’m really planning on this being the main gun on an elk hunt this year.


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[Lawnboi]

Moving back to midland/Odessa/Hobbs soon so guess I’ll tag in.

Also interested in the 22cm. Originally I thought I heard the bc of an 88 Eldm was higher than a 143eldx (and therefore better wind #) but looking at hornadys site it looks like the 143eld x is higher. Maybe I read that it was higher than the 108.

Anyways, how do the ballistics compare to a 143eldx at ~2600fps (18” tikka barrel with 42.3gr of H4350 if I remember right).

Aside from reduced recoil would I gain much?

Wind performance ends up being basically the same at reasonable hunting ranges, and as noted above you get a substancial velocity but in a short barrel. At the end of the day even with a better BC I can’t shoot or correct the difference if the guns hold the same wind number. You also gain a little flatter trajectory meaning more room for ranging errors in the field.

That combined with lack of recoil make a pretty forgiving rifle.

A 6 would be a much more appealing option if willing to keep it 20”. But for a short suppressed rifle I have no regrets on the 22 creed.

Really the oh downside is 22 cal being illegal for some big game. I don’t think I could make a better deer gun.

 

[Miflatlander91]

Wind performance ends up being basically the same at reasonable hunting ranges, and as noted above you get a substancial velocity but in a short barrel. At the end of the day even with a better BC I can’t shoot the difference if the guns hold the same wind number.

That combined with lack of recoil make a pretty forgiving rifle.

It really opens your eyes when you compare say an 88 in a 22 creed to a 156 out of a 6.5 saum at 600 yards 1 mph wind is only like a 1/2” or something small the wind call is the wind call, but if your off by a few mph your really only gaining a few inches at most by shooting a much heavier recoiling round


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