Kifaru just makes a higher quality bag. In the end I'll put up with 8 extra ounces for a better bag, with better customer service, and a belief system that more closely aligns with my own. That being said I love my Kuiu 7000. HMU if you wanna buy it. Its the pro suspension, 2 hip pouches, and the ultra 7000, all told I think I paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $450-500. I'd sell it for $375. I gotta look up prices though and make sure that aligns with what a 18 month old pack is worth. It's got blood from 3 whitetails cause I'm a terrible elk hunter