Jason Snyder
WKR
I use a 125 grain head. I'm thinking about adding weight up front, maybe 25 or 50 grains via the Gold Tip weight system.
GT Velocity Pro 300's cut to 27" raw shaft with 50 gr brass insert and 100 gr tip. Puts FOC right at 17.2%. Going to see if these out perform my FMJ's at my long distance shooting as far as accuracy goes. The FMJ's are at 11% FOC .
Roger - that... gotta obey the spine rules first and foremost. A guy at G5 told me about a new Penetrator2 outsert from VAP yesterday that goes inside and outside the arrow (over the shaft) to allow using standard threads with the Injexion. Gonna take a look. I'm sure it will be a lot heavier than the standard Injexion insert. I didn't like the original VAP insert/outsert - they were often wobbly, and the aluminum ferrule inside the shaft only was too weak IMO. That may be a good/new option for more FOC with Injexions and allows use of any standard broadhead. The drawback is you have to have a pretty big overhang on the shaft because you wouldn't want the tapered outsert in contact with the rest. There is only a small section that covers the end of the shaft, but it should help protect the Injexion shaft and reduce the likelihood of the insert shearing off at the ferrule like I saw with the original. They also bumped the weight up to an even 50 grains which makes them ideal for use with a 100 grain broadhead.
Coop
I have a hard time finding arrows that are stiff enough to shoot more than 125 grains. I'm a 29.5" draw and shoot 70 lbs. I ended up with a 300 spine black eagle rampage, 125 grain broadhead and an insert from firenock. I think the total weight was about 435gr.
There doesn't seem to be a good selection of arrows stiffer than .300
Thanks for the head's up Jared - I actually ordered some but won't have them for a while - I think they're back-ordered. I was hoping they would be more durable than the originals and would spin better with the added slip fit over the last part of the shaft O.D. That's a bummer... What color penetrator insert are you running and what spine Injexions?
I too am a fan of the Wac'Em broadhead. Those puppies shoot good!
I just don't think aluminum is strong enough with that small of a ferrule diameter with the broadhead and insert length to cantilever any bending load. Steel and even titanium (unobtanium at $20/ea.) are going to be too heavy IMO. I think I know the best solution, but doubtful anybody will make them...
How about glue-in broadheads for the small ID arrows with 150/125/100 break-off sections like a target point for A/C/E's and X-10's. No tolerance stack with the insert, no threading issues and they should be able to fit VAP, Injexions and others.
My apologies to the original poster for the thread hijack!
Did I mention I like 150 gr in the nose (broadhead + insert)?
Coop
Coop I am using the yellow/gold inserts in my 330 Injexions. a glue in broahead would be neat. They offered to send me a few of the titanium inserts but I don't want a $20 insert in my arrow! What if I like them!?
I am bummed that Wac'em decided not to do a Deep Six head.
I personally prefer to run 100 gr up front because of the CHOICES I have when it comes to type and company. IF I feel the need for more weight up front I can either add screw in weights to my inserts OR like with HITs use 2 (injexions) or maybe the Brass HITs for Axis and keep my 100 gr heads.
I am a fan of the "smaller" cuts of a 100 VS 125 (in MOST cases). a smaller cutting diameter will have less surface area and therefore have less resistance leading to greater penetration. NOT that I have ever had issues or had customers using 125 have issues. Just the way resistance works.
Yeah, me too. Would have liked to see G5 Styrkers, Wac em' Triton's, and Slick Trick Standard heads all with D6 ferrules. Would have had some great choices for fixed blades. I would give the RamCat a try, but I don't think they would be legal in Idaho since the blades pivot. I need to get someone at F&G to make a ruling.
Coop