Feed while in the field?

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What are the pros/cons and feed amount to each feed type that is commonly available? Scenario being mostly hunting/scounting/just riding a new area each time and only needing feed for a day or 3 at the most. My horses are already on a mix of alfalfa and hay daily and have been for years. Let’s assume there’s not much grass for reliable grazing.
Alfalfa cubes
Alfalfa pellets
Packing an entire compressed bale?
 

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i usually use pellets. start them on pellets a week or two before you leave.

with 2 head and a night or 2 i fill the nose bags with pellets and pack them that way. i have also just hung the nose bags off the saddle horn for a nights feed. there is no waste with the nose bags.
Do the pellets need to be soaked in water before feeding them? New to all this but getting close to buying some mules and making some memories.
 
i usually use pellets. start them on pellets a week or two before you leave.

with 2 head and a night or 2 i fill the nose bags with pellets and pack them that way. i have also just hung the nose bags off the saddle horn for a nights feed. there is no waste with the nose bags.
So if it’s a trip every couple weeks I’d have to have them on pellets continuously? Nose bags are definitely an idea I forgot about thank you.
 
Do the pellets need to be soaked in water before feeding them? New to all this but getting close to buying some mules and making some memories.
Also what I’ve heard, lots of conflicting info regarding feed in the backcountry
 
Circle 5 feed packer pellets, I have a local dealer and started feeding it instead of hay. Even in the pasture. It’s good and on the mountain I’m getting everything I need 15-20lbs per horse per day is plenty efficient, if I have some forage it’s even better and can feed less.


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Circle 5 feed packer pellets, I have a local dealer and started feeding it instead of hay. Even in the pasture. It’s good and on the mountain I’m getting everything I need 15-20lbs per horse per day is plenty efficient, if I have some forage it’s even better and can feed less.


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Our Alfalfa is 250 per ton. Unless my math is wrong that’s almost 700$ per ton if feeding pellets at the 40$ bag price, obviously that’s probably high but I’m curious how much your feed bill went up switching to all pellets.
 
no the pellets do not get water.

a horse gut does not do well with changing of the diet. you need to try to keep things consistent. change diet slowly!!!!!

colic would not be fun in the backcountry. i had some ones mule colic at my camp one year. they eventually found it -but it died.
 
Our Alfalfa is 250 per ton. Unless my math is wrong that’s almost 700$ per ton if feeding pellets at the 40$ bag price, obviously that’s probably high but I’m curious how much your feed bill went up switching to all pellets.

Pellets are $30/bag, we try to feed the 15-20# in camp. Otherwise we have pasture and just use the pellets as supplemental feed to help keep extra weight on.


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Our Alfalfa is 250 per ton. Unless my math is wrong that’s almost 700$ per ton if feeding pellets at the 40$ bag price, obviously that’s probably high but I’m curious how much your feed bill went up switching to all pellets.

Most people don’t feed their horses an all pellet diet all the time. You can also buy pellets by the ton too. Last year i saw a quote for $600 per ton. Montana premium forage sells them as do a few other suppliers. I really only know of one performance horse trainer that does mostly pellet diet but does throw their horses one flake a day. Horses really should get some type of forage daily, it’s good for their gut. Bags in Montana for the hay pellets are around $16 a bag for 40lb bags

Soaking is also a good way to supplement their water intake but might not be possible in the backcountry.


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So it sounds like it would need to be our regular hay/alfalfa diet with some pellets mixed in. That would allow for pellets in the backcountry with some grazing allowed.
 
So it sounds like it would need to be our regular hay/alfalfa diet with some pellets mixed in. That would allow for pellets in the backcountry with some grazing allowed.

That probably would be the best choice. If you need to go full pellets though just make sure you allow your horses a transition period both on and off to minimize colic. You could also explore a fortified senior grain as well for supplementation either as a standalone or also with the hay pellets. Especially from the big manufacturers like Purina and triple crown. There will be gut support in those grains and are designed to (mostly) be fed without forage too. So you can compare feed analysis of both hay pellets and sr grain and decide what makes the most sense for your animals and your hunting trip.


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That probably would be the best choice. If you need to go full pellets though just make sure you allow your horses a transition period both on and off to minimize colic. You could also explore a fortified senior grain as well for supplementation either as a standalone or also with the hay pellets. Especially from the big manufacturers like Purina and triple crown. There will be gut support in those grains and are designed to (mostly) be fed without forage too. So you can compare feed analysis of both hay pellets and sr grain and decide what makes the most sense for your animals and your hunting trip.


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I’ll look into it. Thanks!
 
So this is what I've done the last two seasons. Everyone here knows I'm a rookie, so take it for what it's worth:

I pack individual ziplock bags with a "Ration." The ration mix is:
-- 1lbs rolled barley
-- 1lbs Max E Glo (pelletized rice bran)
For a total of 2lbs per ziplock bag. I bring 2x ration bags per day, per horse. (Read: 4lbs total of ration per day, per horse.)

I feed using a nose bag, with the following timeline:

-- Bag 1: 1/3rd in the AM, about 30min before hitting the trail.
-- Bag 1: Remaining 2/3rds around noon.
-- Bag 2: Full ration, late afternoon/early evening (if I'm not out hunting - otherwise they get the rest back at camp.)

This is all supplemented with grazing, using hobbles. I let the guys graze as soon as I wake up, they get an afternoon graze (usually while I'm glassing), and then I let them eat as long as I can in the evening, before highlining them for the night.

Some things of note:

-- I bring a small peanut butter jar filled with stock salt, and make sure my guys eat some of that every day. This makes them want to drink water. I want to make sure they have lots of water when they are on their rations.

-- I read in a few different places that barley has way more energy than oats, for the same weight. So I run barley instead of oats for that reason.

-- Don't feed heavy amounts of grain first thing in the morning. It seems to mess with the horses and makes them lazy. Stick to just a little bit in the morning, and then feed the rest afternoon/evening.

-- The barley is for cheap energy, and the Max E Glo is for fat. In theory this helps keep condition on the ponies by providing easy energy, plus some fat for reserve.

-- The 2lbs bags make it easy to plan meals for the horses, and balance panniers. If you're light on one side, but heavy on the other, just swap a ziplock bag or two.

-- If you get hammered with a heavy snow, and the grass is all covered and awful, you can still "get by" for a day or two with just your grain. Without it, your ponies will start to get really hangry and start thinking about leaving.

This type of feeding isn't a replacement for grass/grazing. My type of excursions are generally fair-weather, 3-day/2-night type of deals usually, so the combination of the rations plus grazing keeps the horses at 90% or so. But if you were to try this for 2-week trips, it's likely your horse(s) would lose condition.

I forget which book it was that said "It's better to count ribs than tracks", meaning it's better that your horse goes skinny (being tied up at night) instead of risking your horse wandering off in the night while hobbled and grazing. I figure 3-4 days on rations is fine - My guys are pretty spoiled the rest of the time and get more than enough feed at home.

Oh yeah, and ease into this. Start feeding them this stuff in small amounts about a month before your trips, just so their stomachs are used to it.
 
So this is what I've done the last two seasons. Everyone here knows I'm a rookie, so take it for what it's worth:

I pack individual ziplock bags with a "Ration." The ration mix is:
-- 1lbs rolled barley
-- 1lbs Max E Glo (pelletized rice bran)
For a total of 2lbs per ziplock bag. I bring 2x ration bags per day, per horse. (Read: 4lbs total of ration per day, per horse.)

I feed using a nose bag, with the following timeline:

-- Bag 1: 1/3rd in the AM, about 30min before hitting the trail.
-- Bag 1: Remaining 2/3rds around noon.
-- Bag 2: Full ration, late afternoon/early evening (if I'm not out hunting - otherwise they get the rest back at camp.)

This is all supplemented with grazing, using hobbles. I let the guys graze as soon as I wake up, they get an afternoon graze (usually while I'm glassing), and then I let them eat as long as I can in the evening, before highlining them for the night.

Some things of note:

-- I bring a small peanut butter jar filled with stock salt, and make sure my guys eat some of that every day. This makes them want to drink water. I want to make sure they have lots of water when they are on their rations.

-- I read in a few different places that barley has way more energy than oats, for the same weight. So I run barley instead of oats for that reason.

-- Don't feed heavy amounts of grain first thing in the morning. It seems to mess with the horses and makes them lazy. Stick to just a little bit in the morning, and then feed the rest afternoon/evening.

-- The barley is for cheap energy, and the Max E Glo is for fat. In theory this helps keep condition on the ponies by providing easy energy, plus some fat for reserve.

-- The 2lbs bags make it easy to plan meals for the horses, and balance panniers. If you're light on one side, but heavy on the other, just swap a ziplock bag or two.

-- If you get hammered with a heavy snow, and the grass is all covered and awful, you can still "get by" for a day or two with just your grain. Without it, your ponies will start to get really hangry and start thinking about leaving.

This type of feeding isn't a replacement for grass/grazing. My type of excursions are generally fair-weather, 3-day/2-night type of deals usually, so the combination of the rations plus grazing keeps the horses at 90% or so. But if you were to try this for 2-week trips, it's likely your horse(s) would lose condition.

I forget which book it was that said "It's better to count ribs than tracks", meaning it's better that your horse goes skinny (being tied up at night) instead of risking your horse wandering off in the night while hobbled and grazing. I figure 3-4 days on rations is fine - My guys are pretty spoiled the rest of the time and get more than enough feed at home.

Oh yeah, and ease into this. Start feeding them this stuff in small amounts about a month before your trips, just so their stomachs are used to it.
Great info thank you! With young kids at home 3 days is pretty much a max trip length and even then it’s a stretch.
 
My limitation is the stock: I have my riding horse, and a pack horse. My recent trips showed me that trying to go for 5-6 days with this setup doesn't really work.

Rough math: For 7 days your ration weight is 56lbs. Factor in all the camp gear specific to horses, your own food (2lbs/day x 7 days = 14 lbs right there), and you run out of capacity really fast. (Or just get more horses, and then no problem.)

So I've tried to be more realistic about my outings, and just try the old 3-day/2-night deal, with a restock at the horse trailer if staying out longer.

Great info thank you! With young kids at home 3 days is pretty much a max trip length and even then it’s a stretch.
 
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