Fire Damaged 1911

charvey9

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Not really hunting related, but thought some might find this interesting. As a hobby I have an FFL and do some firearm repair/refinishing on the side, and just last night got my hands on this 1911 that was recovered from a car fire.

My brother-in-law was recently in an accident where he fell asleep at the wheel, went through a gaurd rail, and crashed into a tree in his late model Ford F-150. Lucky to be alive, he escaped with some pretty significant burns on his hands, back, and chest. After a few weeks in the hospital, he is now at home and doing better than expected. Although they expect some scarring on his hands and back, he is expected to make a full recovery.



The fire was hot enough that it burned all the plastic/rubber on the truck, and they even found some puddles of molten aluminum at the crash site that had melted off the vehicle. They also pulled his 1911 from the rubble, which he had under the seat. With the grip still intact on one side of the frame, my thought was most of the exterior damage was cosmetic and/or debris from other things that melted in the vehicle.





He could not recall if the pistol was loaded (mind you he has been a little loopy with the pain meds), but I found evidence that at least one round went off in the firearm. I pulled it from the top of the magazine, which was still in the mag well.





I'm guessing it was a full mag with one in the pipe, and at least one more round went off in the chamber. The chamber of the barrel was plugged with slag, with some bits of brass and copper showing. I also pulled another big piece of slag from the top of the magazine, it had melted in the shape of the mag well. It just doesn't feel heavy enough to be lead, so I'm not sure what ammo he was using.





My theory is he had a full mag, but I believe the base plate on this particular magazine was plastic so it would have melted off first and the majority of the rounds rolled out the bottom before discharging. The magazine spring was not recovered. Or possibly the first round that discharged in mag blew out the bottom of the magazine following the path of least resistence.

The only visible internal damage I found anywhere on the firearm was a hole in the back of the magazine itself.



Originally I had planned to restore this for him, but with the potential damage caused by the internal discharge I don't want to risk putting it back in service. Its going to get cleaned up a bit and serve as a wall hanger.
 

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Interesting, best wishes to your brother-in-law for a quick and full recovery.

It may just be the picture and the coloration on barrel, but it looks like the barrel in front of the chamber has a slight bend in it.?. Will his auto insurance cover the replacement of the gun?
 

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the barrel looks to be toast - years ago I had a Colt Trooper that had gone through a total loss house fire rebuilt and it was literally as good as new but today's vehicular fires are hotter and more concentrated - At the very least I'd send it to someone who specializes in these sort of things - although different in pressure expectations than a rifle I'd be so very careful trusting it and the springs are ruined for sure
 
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charvey9

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Yeah, even if I were to restore the pistol the barrel and springs were going to get replaced. I had not thought about the auto insurance, but I'm also going to contact Taurus to see if they will offer any kind of warranty/dicounted replacement.
 

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Auto insurance will not cover personal property. Would be covered under Homeowners but deductible likely more than value.
 
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