All good ideas! I'll so some researching on these.As others have said. It's a solid list. You're definitely getting into the finer details to drop weight. But there's always room to cut!
Things I'd consider.
- Lose the Suunto watch, iPhone has a compass and clock on it.
- consider another battery pack, for 10,000mAh, you could be closer to 6oz. I make my own from a Nitecore F2 and two 21700 batteries (this makes a larger difference if you need two battery packs)
- take Kestrel Ovis and strip the handle off of it, wrap it in paracord and save 2oz. I field prepped my elk and one of my bears this year with the same knife. I didn't miss the scales. Kestrel also makes a lighter sheath, which saves roughly an ounce
- swap out the VA5 head for an RRS BPC-16, save a bunch of oz for $150ish
- swap headlamp to a Nightforce NU25 with a lightweight headstrap from Lightsmith, saves about 1.5oz
- swap Nalgene for a Smart water bottle and swap the Steripen for a gravity filter and the water bladder for a source 2l, you'll save close to half a pound.
- lose the rifle cover
- lose the ammo case, wrap the spare bullets in an elastic band or hair tie.
- do you need a windchecker? You're rifle hunting.
- toothbrush cut down?
Hard to beat a KOWA 553, for its weight and size / glass quality. However the FOV is slightly narrow.I'm throwing around the idea of not bringing my spotting scope. We are going to be in a pretty thick area and I don't think we will have the option to glass much further than 1,000 yards. Never been there though so it's really hard to say.
Any thoughts on spotter for this hunt? Mine comes in at 2.7 lbs.
Anything beyond about 500 yards I'd consider a spotter, especially in steep country where you can't close the gap easily. Bears have a funny way of becoming black indistinguishable blobs at distance.I'm throwing around the idea of not bringing my spotting scope. We are going to be in a pretty thick area and I don't think we will have the option to glass much further than 1,000 yards. Never been there though so it's really hard to say.
Any thoughts on spotter for this hunt? Mine comes in at 2.7 lbs.
Good point for sure. I think we may be glassing around 700ish yards at the furthest.Anything beyond about 500 yards I'd consider a spotter, especially in steep country where you can't close the gap easily. Bears have a funny way of becoming black indistinguishable blobs at distance.
Excellent job compiling your gear and objectively evaluating it. If in grizzly territory, I would never ditch the bear spray.Man yeah there are supposed to be grizz in the area. You definitely make a good point though. I'm not sure how quickly I could get my gun off my pack, a bullet loaded, and fire if a grizz was coming at me.
If I ditch the bear spray, gun cover, and pack cover that would save 19.58 oz. So that is a pretty big deal.
Bears are usually pretty active when they are out and about. At 700 yards you will be able to tell if you're looking at a bear with most any binos. Now if you're looking for a certain size, then a spotter would definitely be helpful.Good point for sure. I think we may be glassing around 700ish yards at the furthest.
Really appreciate the advice.Looks pretty good to me. I’ve spent years refining my pack and gear and most options I see are choices rather than needs.
- I would not take a spotter for viewing to only 700yds. 10x binos on a light tripod are very capable.
- I’d personally switch to Peak Refuel meals. Just taste much better to me. At least make it a variety.
- Absolutely add a second headlamp
- Have a compass, not phone.
- I love the R1 around the house, but for the mountains I much prefer something light, yet blocks wind. For me it’s the Kuiu Peleton 240
- No mention of trauma kit. Something to ease pain and something to stop bleeding.
- You mention fire and don’t know if that means a starter like Trioxane.
- For food, thats a lot of food. Though the weight seems appropriate. I get the caloric intake too, but my guess is you'll end up with a lot of left over food. Depends on level of effort each day too. I would say take three packages of Green Belly bars and eat one bar each day (there are two per pack). I pack similar to what you have, and I always end up with a lot of food left over.
- A couple of small powdered hydration/electrolyte packs can come in handy on warm pack outs.
Good point! I’m definitely leaning towards one bar per morning as well.I had a very dark and rainy night in an area of the Rockies I was unfamiliar with. On my way back towards camp solo, maybe 3mi away, a massive rain/thunder storm rolled in. One headlamp failed in the rain and I didn't have a GPS. I knew the general direction towards camp. That extra light to see my way through downfalls, steep embankments, etc. and a compass to keep me headed in the right direction were critical. I now have a Silva compass tied into my pack and I always have two headlamps. It's also a pain to replace batteries in a headlamp on a zero moon night. But easy with a second light! Those were pre-cell phone. While a good cell offers some capability, and I do use the GPS/Maps, there is zero chance I am trusting one to get me out of a bind.
I hear you with the food. I just thought the two Green Belly's would be quite a bit. I knew not to reduce the periodic snacks.
Looks pretty dialed in man. Good luckGoing on an Idaho bear hunt the end of May and I'm trying to dial in my pack for 6 days out. Any suggestions are definitely appreciated. I'm still trying to figure out my food situation so I'll post that once I do the math.
Couple side notes--I'm going with my brother and he is carrying the tent and stakes. I'm carrying the tarp which we will use as a ground cloth/rain shelter. I'm also a type 1 diabetic so I have an extra almost pound in diabetic supplies. I also can't leave my battery pack because my insulin pump will probably need charged.
The thing that stands out to me the most would be my weapon weight. I use the Hatch Outwest Bipod which definitely has a weight penalty but came in clutch in MT last year.
What I'm Wearing In
Darn Tough Socks
Sitka Timberline Pants
Icebreaker Merino T-Shirt
Patagonia Cap3 Long Sleeve Shirt
Patagonia R1 Hoodie
Suunto Core Watch
Marsupial Gear Bino Harness with Rangefinder Pouch
Zeiss Conquest HD 10x42 Bino
Sig Kilo 850 Rangefinder
BD Alpine Carbon Cork Trekking Poles
Pack Mystery Ranch Metcalf 91.2 146.06 Mystery Ranch Rain Fly 3.67 Garmin inReach Mini 4 Bear Spray 11 Nalgene Water Bottle 3.99 1L of Water 32.2 Optics Carried in Pack Siruui Tripod and VA5 Head 45.54 89.77 Leupold 12-40x60 with Adapter 44.23 Clothes Packed Stone Glaciar Grumman Puffy Coat 11.8 49.78 Montbell Down Pants 14.1 Sitka Cloudburst Rain Jacket 17.6 Darn Tough Socks x 2 6.28 Sleep System Thermarest NeoAir xTherm Sleeping Pad 15.91 46.05 Western Mountaineering Caribou 21 Exped Small Pillow 1.69 Borah Gear 6 x 9 Tarp 7.45 Medical/Random Kifaru Medium Pouch 0.85 27.82 Med/Battery/Teeth/Aqua Mira/Fire 7.44 Diabetes Supplies 8.19 Glucose Tablets Tube x 3 5.7 Toilet Paper w/Ziploc 5.64 Kill Kit Argali High Country Game Bags 9 16.34 Paracord 0.53 Latex Gloves x 2 0.95 Kestrel Ovis Hunter 3.7 Kestrel Mountain Scalpel 0.92 Pen with Electrical Tape 0.39 Kifaru Medium Pouch 0.85 Electronics Dark Energy Posidon 8.96 13.05 Spot Headlamp 2.89 iPhone Charging Cord 0.7 Insulin Pump/inReach Charging Cord 0.5 Misc. Z Pad Seat 2.1 9.74 SteriPen Ultra UV Purifier 4.94 HydraPak Seeker 2L 2.7 Cook Kit Sea to Summit Long Spork 0.42 17.97 MSR Pocket Rocket 4.06 Snow Peak Ti-Solo Pot 5.68 4 oz Fuel Canister 7.4 Small Bic Lighter 0.41 Weapon Tikka T3x Lite Veil Alpine 160.42 174.99 10 Bullets with Pouch 9.74 GoHunt Gun Cover 4.83
Total Gear (oz) 416.58 26.04 Pack Weight w/o Food Lbs) Total Food (oz) Food Weight (lbs) Weapon Weight (oz) 174.99 10.94 Weapon Weight (Lbs) Total Carry Weight (Lbs) 36.97
That's an awkward distance, so close to not needing a spotter. Here's a few other questions.Good point for sure. I think we may be glassing around 700ish yards at the furthest.