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Keep at it, trust me. When I started learning to use diaphragm calls, i was extremely frustrated. I am very comfortable with it now. It also took me going through about 14 different diaphragm calls from different manufacturers until i found one that fit my mouth and would make the range of calls. Many i could cow call, but not bugle etc. and vica versa. For me that ended up being the black AMP. Don't give up!Paul , signed up on Elknut1 , been working on the nervous grunt , so far it seems I have a severe lack of talent for mastering it
What you just posted is why I started this threadIve seen 90% spook when trying to stop them and the other 10% stopped behind a tree....lol
Great story , felt like I was in the stand watchingIn case you thought that was a dumb question, I just searched through the forums for this exact discussion. I am a mid-western whitetail hunter also heading out for my first elk hunt this year. I am good at stopping whitetails and was just sitting here wondering if those tricks would work on elk. This chain has been great!
As a fun aside, I was in a deerstand with a youngester last year (how I spend 90% of my deer stand time now) who had never shot at a deer before. A forky came out (I am not over picky, especially for a first timer) and I was able to bleat and stop him dead in his tracks at about 40 yards. The young man couldn't get his gun to stop shaking and ended up banging it into the rail enough times that he eventually scared the deer. As it's running away, I yell a bleat sound as loud as I could and that thing locked up like it had hit a wall. It literally skidded to a stop. Stopped dead still at 90 yards, broadside. An errant rifle shot later and that deer had a funny story to tell his friends!
I can relate to this so well haha. When I shot the white tail in my avatar he was with a group of deer at 290yds walking right to left.. I was uncomfortable shooting position and trying to stay calm while my hunting partner tried to freeze them by making a female doe bleep, didn’t work... louder didn’t work.. the whole time I’m tracking with them with finger on the trigger trying to stay calm... then whistled loudly.. they’re still walking right at the tree line finally yelled “hey! stop right there” as loud as he could.. I didn’t comprehend what he said until after the shot went off otherwise I would have probably laughed because it actually worked.Do guys really thing bleating with your mouth at a whitetail stops a deer because they think it is another deer? I've stopped them with bleats, whistles, snorts, lip squeaking, etc.
make a little noise and see the reaction, if no reaction do it louder or different. If you make a noise and they start moving faster decision time. Elk, deer, antleope, etc I have used the same sound on all of them and it worked...the best one when they are ignoring you is "HEY" or "F@$king STOP!"
Yep , for sure I will be the one doing the stopping , and as you say on my whitetails , my arrow will be on the way immediatly upon the stop ............... providing I havent stopped his vitals behind coverDon't overthink it, a mew like you do for your WTs will stop them just as a cow call, grunt etc. Elknut's example above is as real as it gets, but not needed if you're just trying to stop them at close range, 20ish yds.
I would caution against a caller try to stop an elk for the shooter as you don't have the same perspective as the shooter and the elk may be in the clear for you, just the opposite for the shooter. Been there on that one.
Also, just like with your WTs, once you make a sound to stop them, you have just directed the animals full attention on you and the door is now closing rapidly.