Toelke or black widow

[Foggy Mountain]

I agree, but I also like to shoot the long shots at the 3d shoots etc, even with a quiver full of arrows, it's harder to keep your line on the long shots, not really noticable on hunting range shots I'm willing to take, but go shoot 70-100 yds and the lack of mass is noticable if you don't do everything just perfect, but I don't want to trade!

I’ve never shot that far w a styk. I love long shots though, nothing cooler than watching a long arrow arch. I see your point about weight there