Toelke or black widow

[North Idaho Stickbow]

I’d go Toelke purely for the Super D.

 

[oldgoat]

Both great.
If wait time is an issue Toelke is probably going to be better…..usually a month.

BW makes some models that have a heavier riser that Toelke doesn’t make.

So it depends what you are looking for

Their popularity is soaring, recent wait times have been more in the six month range!

 

[oldgoat]

Black Widows are solid bows from a solid company with legendary customer service, but they can't seem to build a pretty bow! Toelke on the other hand has all of Black Widows positive attributes and builds pretty bows to boot! They are almost all I shoot, I have an ugly old Bear 76r I shoot from time to time for nostalgic reasons. Toelke has the best grip in the industry in my opinion too!

 

[Clintopher]

Is Morrison still putting out bows. He was getting into ILF about the time I put my bow down. I had his Shawnee model and it was the nicest bow I owned.

 

[Beendare]

Their popularity is soaring, recent wait times have been more in the six month range!

Oh wow….for the longest time they would crank them out in a month.
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I think if I wanted a bow with less mass in the riser portion I would go Toelke, but if I wanted a heavy riser I would do BW.

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[oldgoat]

Oh wow….for the longest time they would crank them out in a month.
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I think if I wanted a bow with less mass in the riser portion I would go Toelke, but if I wanted a heavy riser I would do BW.

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True, now that they don't offer the 3 piece Lynx, it has a ton of mass!

 

[Fling-One]

I’ll leave this here. 52#64” bw plx. Shoots like a dream

 

[Beendare]

Nice bow FO….

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

I'll check that out. I'm just getting back into it. I shot trad bows years ago and recently pulled out my old bear grizzly, then grabbed a bear super kodiak which is ok. Now after going down the rabbit hole and seeing all the new bows out there right now I'm looking to score a few high end bows, one recurve and one longbow. As much as I'd like to try them all, that just isn't in the cards so I want to be sure what I buy will make me happy. A Toelke whip is Definetly at the top of the list. I don't see much love for Bob Lee bows around here, why is that?

Probably just fewer guys shooting them on here. They're good bows. I have a couple buddies that love their Bob Lee bows.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I’ll leave this here. 52#64” bw plx. Shoots like a dream View attachment 314519

That’s pretty slick man. I can’t wait to get a long bow.

 

[Courtlandfarms]

Toekle whips are flat out impressive. Excited to hear he has a new grip option.

 

[Ahutch]

He said tradgang........lol.



Hutch

 

[SHTF]

I have Shot both and just sold a PMAX Blackwidow. I also have a Toelke 64 inch Whip takedown now that I love and today as luck would have it I just purchased a Toelke SSLR from a buddy. between the 2 companies and the bows i have or have owned I would say Toelke would have my vote. Both make great bows but I really enjoy the Toelke line and how they make their bows. They flat out shoot great. The BW Pmax I just sold also was decent but it was heavy. Some may like that but Im more of a minimalist and can shoot the lighter Trad bows without any issue. Im also big on simplisity. the Toelke line of bows hit that cord for me in being a very simple design that works fantastic. Now that I will own a Longbow and Semi Static recurve from Toelke I can give you my take on both of them once I get some time behind the SSLR. pictures are of the SSLR I just paid for today. Super excited its a Takedown version.

 

[SHTF]

Here is my Whip

 

[Foggy Mountain]

So why are you stuck between just those two bows? Neither a bad choice mind you they’re just kinda different feeling and shooting. I’ve never shot a Widow I wanted to rush home from work the next day and shoot again. They shoot ok but IMO there seems to be something about them I don’t like.
Last fall I hunted almost exclusively w a Whip, not a true longbow but I’d rather shoot that than the widows sitting right next to them.
To each his own, try n see if you can shoot both somewhere and decide for yourself. Not everyone has same likes

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

So why are you stuck between just those two bows? Neither a bad choice mind you they’re just kinda different feeling and shooting. I’ve never shot a Widow I wanted to rush home from work the next day and shoot again. They shoot ok but IMO there seems to be something about them I don’t like.
Last fall I hunted almost exclusively w a Whip, not a true longbow but I’d rather shoot that than the widows sitting right next to them.
To each his own, try n see if you can shoot both somewhere and decide for yourself. Not everyone has same likes

I actually love the Widow PMA shot feel *once I put a quiver on it*. The limbs are the tiniest bit shocky without some vibration dampening. But it is flat out forgiving, specifically because of the extra mass in the riser. I have a buddy getting an SS with the 10x grip soon, and in a similar draw weight to my Widow. I'm really interested to see which one I like better with the new Toelke grip option.

 

[LostArra]

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I think if I wanted a bow with less mass in the riser portion I would go Toelke, but if I wanted a heavy riser I would do BW.

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^^^ This

Is Morrison still putting out bows. He was getting into ILF about the time I put my bow down. I had his Shawnee model and it was the nicest bow I owned.

I'm still shooting my Morrison Shawnee. No one anywhere does snake skins like Bob Morrison

 

[Foggy Mountain]

I actually love the Widow PMA shot feel *once I put a quiver on it*. The limbs are the tiniest bit shocky without some vibration dampening. But it is flat out forgiving, specifically because of the extra mass in the riser. I have a buddy getting an SS with the 10x grip soon, and in a similar draw weight to my Widow. I'm really interested to see which one I like better with the new Toelke grip option.

I think that’s possibly what I don’t like, the mass, bulk, weight. Thank God they make all types

 

[SHTF]

Same here it was just to much riser to shoot for long hours with. That is where the Toelkes shine for me. shoot great and easy to carry and shoot without all of the bulk.

 

[oldgoat]

Same here it was just to much riser to shoot for long hours with. That is where the Toelkes shine for me. shoot great and easy to carry and shoot without all of the bulk.

I think that’s possibly what I don’t like, the mass, bulk, weight. Thank God they make all types

I agree, but I also like to shoot the long shots at the 3d shoots etc, even with a quiver full of arrows, it's harder to keep your line on the long shots, not really noticable on hunting range shots I'm willing to take, but go shoot 70-100 yds and the lack of mass is noticable if you don't do everything just perfect, but I don't want to trade!