Zen bivy sheet/ enlightened equipment quilt

[fulltiltaudio]

It looks like the wings fold up. Would an elastic cord with a small hook over the top not work? Or a round para cord/ elastic cord through a tensioner? Like a shoe lace.

I actually originally tried that with some shock cord, but I could feel the cord every time I moved and knew it would be annoying and felt like it defeated the purpose, that's when I came across the tenacious tape idea! Hoping I can test it out for a night this weekend!

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[camelcluch]

Good info. Thanks.

 

[fulltiltaudio]

Well, I'm kind of bummed, but that was a fail!! Unless I didn't do something right. The cordage ripped out of the tape within the first 20 minutes. It's possible that if it was a continuous loop maybe it would have been better, but the ends just came right out.

I think next will just be to sew on some loops and make them permanent. Kind of bummed as I really liked the idea of the tape so it wasn't so permanent, however I think I'll like it once I get the loops to actually stay so I think it will be worth it.
Will be a bit, but I will update once I sew them on!

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[Gutshotem]

Well, I'm kind of bummed, but that was a fail!! Unless I didn't do something right. The cordage ripped out of the tape within the first 20 minutes. It's possible that if it was a continuous loop maybe it would have been better, but the ends just came right out.

I think next will just be to sew on some loops and make them permanent. Kind of bummed as I really liked the idea of the tape so it wasn't so permanent, however I think I'll like it once I get the loops to actually stay so I think it will be worth it.
Will be a bit, but I will update once I sew them on!

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That sucks to hear. Please keep us updated on your progress and thanks for doing the thread.

 

[sneek-ee]

I sewed some loops on my diy 25 synthetic quilt while I'm waiting for the 10 deg zenbivy light quilt to come in stock.

Works great.

 

[ricejar]

Anything new here? The sewing route looks like the best option but I’d have to learn to sew ha.

 

[fulltiltaudio]

Sorry for the delay! Finally got around to sewing loops on and got to put it to the test. I've spent 2 seperate nights in it and it's been great! Overall I think it's gonna work perfectly! I love the amount of space I have in this over my enlightened equipment convert bag. Only downside to the zenbivy I see is that it doesn't seem as fast to be able to get out as a zipper out, as u have to find each hook/loop and unhook it. I've just left the top one off and slide out the top, so hasn't been a real big deal. I'm excited to truly put it to the test this year

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[TOLeary]

Just watched a video on this on YouTube and decided to see if anyone on here has tried this out. Looks like you came up with the same thing as this guy did. I’ll add the link above

 

[fulltiltaudio]

If I had to pick a downside to this system, it's that the hooks and loops are not near as fast as a zipper would be to get in/out of the quilt. In cold weather I have them all hooked, and have to remove 2-3 of them at least to get out. Not necessarily a huge deal, but you have to find each of the hooks and undo them with both hands until you can slide out the top vs unzip and slip out the side.

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[Coopsdaddy]

As a side note.How come sleeping bag manufacturers don’t have spots to put clips.Like attaching a quilt to pad straps?
Wouldn’t it help if you toss and turn.

 

[BoilerBowHunter]

I've used these Zpacks stick on's before (DCF tent/tarp) and wonder how they'd work. I have a couple leftover extras and might test it if I order a Fast Sheet. There's one or two on the Backpacking Light forum that tried basically the same thing (grosgrain ribbon) so I'll have to search for a follow up on that. Un-clipping the 2mm cord would probably be easier than the ribbon and the cord isn't coming out by itself.

Stick on Loop

Zpacks Offers the Best Lightweight Backpacking Gear: The Ultralight Stick on Loop has a loop sewn to it and tape adhesive on the back. You can use these to add attachment points to your gear, or add hang loops to your tarp.

zpacks.com

@BBob - Did you ever try these stick on loops?

 

[BBob]

@BBob - Did you ever try these stick on loops?

I didn't because I've misplaced the extra's I had. I'll take this as a reminder to see if I can find them or will order more. Will also have to squeeze this into the zillion other projects I always seem to have going

Edit: I do have some DCF patch material that's the same as these for DCF. I'll stick a chunk on some nylon first to see how well it sticks first.

 

[rashtack]

I was able to make it work with tenacious tape and cord. It hasn't been put through any extreme use yet but it has survived some naps without the cord pulling out. I am able to pull on the cord pretty aggressively and it doesn't budge.

 

[Wildlifer82]

1cm loops of 2mm cord attached to a quilt with 2" rounds of tenacious tape, stuck to the quilt at 22cm intervals, starting at 35mm from the top of a quilt, works awesome! (You need 2mm cord to snap into the Zenbivy fast sheet.) You can still keep it open for the warmer nights and close it up when the temps drop. And my EE quilt is a weight savings over the entire zenbivy system. Love this setup.

Has this held up for you? I'm considering doing the same with my UGQ quilt. The new ZB UL 10deg is just way to $$.

 

[fulltiltaudio]

Thank you so much for sharing all those details and photos! Has this held up for you? I've been waiting for the details on the ZB UL 10deg. Well, the most important detail is the $659 price tag for the quilt alone! My UGQ was $375 for the same comfort rating and size... and it's an ounce lighter! I really don't see how the ZB is that much better... those little cordage tabs are super expensive I guess ;-)

Anyway - your post has inspired me to look at modifying my UGQ instead of trying to sell it and buy the ZB system. I'm just curious if it will hold up. Thanks!

So far it has held up well! I've probably only have a true 10-20 nights in it to be fair, sometimes I'll opt for other bags depending on what I'm doing. But I don't think I'll have any durability issues! Good luck!

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[carsonkeys]

I have a 10* ZenBivy Light Bed for sale in the classifieds right now if anybody is looking.

 

[Wildlifer82]

Here is my version. I used superglue gel to form the cordate loop. Then I just sewed it into a fold on the quilt... right along the seam. Hopefully this isn't too stressful on my UGQ!

Thank you all for the inspiration!