.223 for bear, deer, elk and moose.

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There are a lot of very dead elk that were shot with the 7-08. If you are good with it to 450 yards and practice with it more than the others, my suggestion would be to keep using it. I have killed a pile of animals with the 139 grain SSTs, however none of them were elk. That being said, I can confidently say that if I was in the woods with my 7-08 and 139 grain SSTs I would not hesitate to shoot an elk.

I’ve killed elk with a 7mm-08, and seen elk get killed with a 7mm-08. It’s my primary shootin’ iron.




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For those with a tikka, any advantage to a Stainless vs Blued? I have a blued and it showed signs of some spot surface rust almost immediately in this Oregon coast range hunting season. Going to try to track down a stainless option if I can but curious if anyone has seen any more able differences.

Wouldnt sway me one way or the other? My main rifle has some freckling from being put away wet. I could care less
 
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For those with a tikka, any advantage to a Stainless vs Blued? I have a blued and it showed signs of some spot surface rust almost immediately in this Oregon coast range hunting season. Going to try to track down a stainless option if I can but curious if anyone has seen any more able differences.

I don’t really think there is an advantage if you already have a blued version. If you are concerned, spend the $150 and have the one you own cerakoted.

Unless, of course, you just want to buy another gun. ;)
 

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Elk, all with 223/77gr TMK-


633 yards, 1,515fps impact, quartering away in the neck-
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430 yards, quartering, lung, liver, stomach and caught in exit side, 1,816fps impact-
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Same elk, moved to 402 yards, raking shot, exit though femur and hindquarter, 1,863fps impact-
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555 yards, qaurtering, rib, liver, lung, heart, 1,760fps impact-

Entrance-
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Caught in heart-
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wyo

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Elk, all with 223/77gr TMK-


633 yards, 1,515fps impact, quartering away in the neck-
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430 yards, quartering, lung, liver, stomach and caught in exit side, 1,816fps impact-
View attachment 488009

Same elk, moved to 402 yards, raking shot, exit though femur and hindquarter, 1,863fps impact-
View attachment 488010



555 yards, qaurtering, rib, liver, lung, heart, 1,760fps impact-

Entrance-
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Caught in heart-
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Those are some pokes with that little varmint caliber! 😀
Great autopsy photos, interesting to see the amount of fragmentation/deformation at such low impact velocities. I certainly appreciate this thread and its contribution to science. In fact, I like it a whole bunch.
 

Formidilosus

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That's awesome. What platform rifle are you using? AR or bolt?

Both.




Those are some pokes with that little varmint caliber! 😀
Great autopsy photos, interesting to see the amount of fragmentation/deformation at such low impact velocities. I certainly appreciate this thread and its contribution to science. In fact, I like it a whole bunch.


It’s almost like you can design a bullet to kill well for any caliber…
 
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So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?
 

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I've had good luck. I bought 1000 77tmk and so far a few of the tips are wonky. I bought 500 108gr ELD-M and they maybe aren't as shiny as normal
So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?
 

Floridave

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So…. Very informative thread…. I’m only on page 100 of 132.

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but only a mention. Has anyone had experience with MidwayUSA seconds bullets?

I got a couple hundred and they’ve worked well for me.


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