Hey guy's, new here. Ive followed the site for a few years and kind of just browsed others posts from afar for the info I was looking at and figured I'd finally join in. Long story short, I (sadly) live on the east coast. Avid outdoorsman and have grown up hunting everything the east coast has to offer, but have been dying to add elk to my list for a while now. I'm early 30s, good shape, am willing to hike a long way to get away from the crowds, and applied for my first points/tags out west and in PA last year with no luck (not that I expected it) after extensive research I have decided to do my first OTC hunt with 2 like minded friends in CO due to distance and cost. I would like to learn and put meat in the freezer. I by no means have any expectations of harvesting an animal with essentially only internet knowledge, and I'm not looking for a trophy hunt. I have no one who I know who hunts elk, so my options there are limited. My plan is to hike in, make camp, and most likely hunt 3rd season as I have no experience with calling and would view (correct me if I'm wrong) 3rd season as being a bit of an equalizer as it becomes more of a determination game and putting in work where others wont and playing the wind/pressure to fill an OTC public land tag. What units do you guys feel are worth checking out? I have done research into top units by harvest %, hunter numbers, ect, but that rarely tells the whole story from those with first hand experience. ATM units 13, 70, and 211 are my top choices based on harvest rates. For the record, the idea of a guide is unappealing due to cost, and the fact that I'm very much in favor of learning myself and becoming able to DIY every year. I've heard horror stories of guys paying guides that turn out to be jerks and dont ever teach you really anything other than dragging you around the mountain. Any advise is appreciated!