Maven binoculars?

[tadace]

Maven B1.2 10x42 vs B6 10x50. If you could only buy one, which one would choose.

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[elkguide]

I'd split the difference and go with the B.2 11X45's.

 

[Highlands Hunter]

I have the B6 and really like them. I choose them over the B1.2 to get the larger objective and more light gathering. Both are great, whatever you decide.

 

[nobody]

B6. 10x50 trumps 10x42 in low light, all things equal. That's a no brainer for me, I'll never own another pair of 10x42's because of that alone.

 

[wnelson14]

Maven B1.2 10x42 vs B6 10x50. If you could only buy one, which one would choose.

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What kind of hunting do you do?
I have the b1.2 and love them.

 

[TxLite]

B6. 10x50 trumps 10x42 in low light, all things equal. That's a no brainer for me, I'll never own another pair of 10x42's because of that alone.

If low light performance is the desired goal, the 8x42 would trump the 10x50 in low light. Have you found a big improvement on usability with the extra 2x in actual field use? I’m currently using 10x42 Meoptas and have been considering going to an 8x42 due to a low light situation last fall that cost me a bull. I don’t think the 10x50’s will fit in my harness

Edit: after looking at Mavens advertised light transmission, the b6 out performs the 8x42 b1.2. Also, b6 will fit in my marsupial harness.

 

[nobody]

If low light performance is the desired goal, the 8x42 would trump the 10x50 in low light. Have you found a big improvement on usability with the extra 2x in actual field use? I’m currently using 10x42 Meoptas and have been considering going to an 8x42 due to a low light situation last fall that cost me a bull. I don’t think the 10x50’s will fit in my harness

Edit: after looking at Mavens advertised light transmission, the b6 out performs the 8x42 b1.2. Also, b6 will fit in my marsupial harness.

It all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:

Exit Pupil
8x42 - 5.25mm
10x42 - 4.2mm
10x50 - 5mm
12x50 - 4.1667mm

The human eye optimizes around an exit pupil of 5mm. Much smaller and you're leaving light on the table, much more and you're carrying extra bulk that your eye can't use. So 10x42 and 12x50 are out.

12x is too hard to handhold. Lots of guys will say you can, but whenever guys say "buy a 12x50, it's still possible to handhold effectively," the inflection in their voice sounds almost as if they're even trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true. It's not true across the board obviously, but objectively, lower mag = easier to handhold, especially one hand while bow hunting. I don't want separate binos for rifle vs. bow hunting, so the 10x and 8x win out again. here

So we've already eliminated the 12x50 from contention. Exit pupil is too small, and too hard to handhold. That leaves 8x42, 10x42, and 10x50. The 10x42 is eliminated here because of the small exit pupil (relative to the two other choices).

The magnification is a personal choice thing. The exit pupils between the 8x42 and 10x50 are effectively the same, with just a 0.25mm difference. But the additional 2 magnification of the 10x vs 8x does the same thing that jumping from a 10x to 12x does, but you're not giving up light. Basically, it gives the best tradeoff of FOV, light transmission, hand-hold-ability, and magnification you could hope for in a dedicated western hunting optic.

If I ever hunted back east, I might consider the 8x42. But I live in the rocky mountains and am an unapologetic western hunter, so the 10x50 is my huckleberry. My family and the guys I've hunted with have all jumped on the train as well and have become believers.

This is just my opinion, keep in mind. I'm sure lots of guys will argue an opposing viewpoint, and that's ok. But that's my justification of a 10x50 for dedicated western hunting.

 

[TxLite]

It all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:

Exit Pupil
8x42 - 5.25mm
10x42 - 4.2mm
10x50 - 5mm
12x50 - 4.1667mm

The human eye optimizes around an exit pupil of 5mm. Much smaller and you're leaving light on the table, much more and you're carrying extra bulk that your eye can't use. So 10x42 and 12x50 are out.

12x is too hard to handhold. Lots of guys will say you can, but whenever guys say "buy a 12x50, it's still possible to handhold effectively," the inflection in their voice sounds almost as if they're even trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true. It's not true across the board obviously, but objectively, lower mag = easier to handhold, especially one hand while bow hunting. I don't want separate binos for rifle vs. bow hunting, so the 10x and 8x win out again. here

So we've already eliminated the 12x50 from contention. Exit pupil is too small, and too hard to handhold. That leaves 8x42, 10x42, and 10x50. The 10x42 is eliminated here because of the small exit pupil (relative to the two other choices).

The magnification is a personal choice thing. The exit pupils between the 8x42 and 10x50 are effectively the same, with just a 0.25mm difference. But the additional 2 magnification of the 10x vs 8x does the same thing that jumping from a 10x to 12x does, but you're not giving up light. Basically, it gives the best tradeoff of FOV, light transmission, hand-hold-ability, and magnification you could hope for in a dedicated western hunting optic.

If I ever hunted back east, I might consider the 8x42. But I live in the rocky mountains and am an unapologetic western hunter, so the 10x50 is my huckleberry. My family and the guys I've hunted with have all jumped on the train as well and have become believers.

This is just my opinion, keep in mind. I'm sure lots of guys will argue an opposing viewpoint, and that's ok. But that's my justification of a 10x50 for dedicated western hunting.

Thanks for the well thought out response. I spoke with Maven earlier and they steered me towards the 10x50 as well because I don’t typically carry a separate spotter.

 

[grfox92]

It all depends on your use case and where you hunt, but for me (high country mule deer and elk), absolutely the extra 2x magnification is worth it. Here's my justification:

Exit Pupil
8x42 - 5.25mm
10x42 - 4.2mm
10x50 - 5mm
12x50 - 4.1667mm

The human eye optimizes around an exit pupil of 5mm. Much smaller and you're leaving light on the table, much more and you're carrying extra bulk that your eye can't use. So 10x42 and 12x50 are out.

12x is too hard to handhold. Lots of guys will say you can, but whenever guys say "buy a 12x50, it's still possible to handhold effectively," the inflection in their voice sounds almost as if they're even trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true. It's not true across the board obviously, but objectively, lower mag = easier to handhold, especially one hand while bow hunting. I don't want separate binos for rifle vs. bow hunting, so the 10x and 8x win out again. here

So we've already eliminated the 12x50 from contention. Exit pupil is too small, and too hard to handhold. That leaves 8x42, 10x42, and 10x50. The 10x42 is eliminated here because of the small exit pupil (relative to the two other choices).

The magnification is a personal choice thing. The exit pupils between the 8x42 and 10x50 are effectively the same, with just a 0.25mm difference. But the additional 2 magnification of the 10x vs 8x does the same thing that jumping from a 10x to 12x does, but you're not giving up light. Basically, it gives the best tradeoff of FOV, light transmission, hand-hold-ability, and magnification you could hope for in a dedicated western hunting optic.

If I ever hunted back east, I might consider the 8x42. But I live in the rocky mountains and am an unapologetic western hunter, so the 10x50 is my huckleberry. My family and the guys I've hunted with have all jumped on the train as well and have become believers.

This is just my opinion, keep in mind. I'm sure lots of guys will argue an opposing viewpoint, and that's ok. But that's my justification of a 10x50 for dedicated western hunting.

Great post

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[Browtinemt]

Maven is currently having a 15% off site wide moving sale if you’re still in the market

 

[huskyhunter]

Can anyone verify that the Maven B6 10X50 will fit in a large KUIU bino harness.

 

[Dejhavu]

Really good glass for the money and no middle man. Never used it but warranty sounds awesome. Can demo it for shipping cost.
Only negative is you can’t pick it up and look at it in a store.

 

[Giannandreaj]

I went with the b.2 11x45s. For quick and easy effective glassing I walk around with a trekking pole with a bino stud adaptor at the top. Makes glassing while hiking 1000 times more effective. I feel like I spot far more game that are several hundred yards away.

 

[grizz19]

Depends on The type of country you will be hunting, but if it’s bigger open country I’ll second the 11x45. I have the 10x42 and love them but I hunt a lot of big open desert country and wish I’d have went the 11x45 route.

 

[Giannandreaj]

Agreed here, ill back track. If you have wide open country 11x45. Ill also note that the 11x45s vs the B.6s have a schmedt and pechan prism while the 11x45s have an abbe koenig prism which while make a larger binocular but it will also be more clear and have better light gathering ability relative to the objective lens.

 

[TheBootBowhunting]

Can anyone verify that the Maven B6 10X50 will fit in a large KUIU bino harness.

Cant speak to a large Kuiu, but I have my B6's (12s) in a Small non enclosed Marsupial. They are very compact for a x50 binocular. The B6s arent much bigger than what x42s used to be. The B1.2s are also pretty compact compared to other x42s. Cant go wrong with either. It really is a toss up. Either bigger with better low light, or more compact/a bit easier to handle at the cost of low light performance.

 

[Ferrulewax]

Some good info here, figured I would bump this up to see if anyone else can chime in on the b1.2 vs b6 in 10x instead of starting a new thread

 

[nobody]

Some good info here, figured I would bump this up to see if anyone else can chime in on the b1.2 vs b6 in 10x instead of starting a new thread

Read my post above, post #7.

B6, without question

 

[Ferrulewax]

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Here is an excellent comparison of the b1.2 and b6 as well, although not quite apples to apples (12x50 vs 10x42)

 

[Highlands Hunter]

B6 is very good. If I was going to get the B1.2 I think I would get the 8s.
FYI, I’ve looked through the B2 11x45 and thought they looked dark compared to the B1.2s and B6. If I was going to buy the B2 I would get the 9x45.