Upgrade from Nikon LaserForce to Sig KILO3000BDX

[Mountainman007]

Hello All,

I currently own a Nikon LaserForce, but I am looking to upgrade to the Sig KIlo3000BDX.

I am not concerned about all the electronics in the Kilo3000. I am most concerned about the glass quality.

Has anyone ever used both? which one is better as far as glass is concerned? I was told that the KIlo3000 is

brighter while glassing outside opposed to the Nikon, but that is it.

Any help would be helpful. Everyone is really knowledgeable on here, if there is a better optic that does not

break the bank, which means under 1,500.00 that is light in comparison to the fore mention optics I am all ears.

Thanks for any input!!

 

[gr8fuldoug]

The Sig is excellent, however, in a side by side with the Laserforce you won't be like "OMG the difference is so obvious" Optically superior would be the GPO Rangeguide 10x50 Binocular Rangefinder's

 

[Mountainman007]

WOW That was fast!! Thank you for the quick response!

So the GPO RangeGuide would be a OMG difference between the LaserForce as far as glass is concerned? the price

is not to far from my buget.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

WOW That was fast!! Thank you for the quick response!

So the GPO RangeGuide would be a OMG difference between the LaserForce as far as glass is concerned? the price

is not to far from my buget.

It wouldn't be a Corvette vs a Camry but it would be an obvious upgrade optically

 

[Mountainman007]

Has anyone ever heard of Meopta Optika LR 10x42 Rangefinding Binocular? it's new for 2021

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[gr8fuldoug]

Has anyone ever heard of Meopta Optika LR 10x42 Rangefinding Binocular? it's new for 2021

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Yes, it has been out and available for a year. Great unit, however, due to lack of marketing by Meopta it isn't as well known as it deserves to be

 

[ZackP]

My eyes didn’t see much of a difference between the MHG and the LaserForce.

Both are a step above in glass quality IMO than the 3000 Sig, which I would put next the Viper HD.

 

[Mountainman007]

thanks for that info...

gr8fuldoug: of the two mentioned above i.e., Meopta Optika LR and the GPO RangeGuide, which has better glass? they are both pretty small and close to same weight, same price point, and have good ranging capabilities.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

side by side it's crazy close. I cannot see a difference

 

[Mountainman007]

Thanks for all the information! I think I will go with the GPO. I like the 50mm objective over the 42mm. the weight between the two are only .2lb difference, the Meopta edging it out, Also the laser goes farther for spotting animals. The GPO also has more features including a temp sensor.

 

[Mountainman007]

I have been looking at another bino Rangefinder. Leica Geovid R 10X42mm

Comparing the glass, to the GPO. They are in the same price range.

Does anyone have any thoughts on these two Bino rangefinders?

 

[lemirage]

Late reply but... look for the Delta 9x45 RF . Those are OMG binos. Tried them next to my Swaro. less than half the price. great set, period

 

[Mountainman007]

Late reply but... look for the Delta 9x45 RF . Those are OMG binos. Tried them next to my Swaro. less than half the price. great set, period

Wow Thank you for that info!! So are those going to better than the GPO glass wise? They do weight less. I do like that the GPO are 10X50mm. but is there really a big difference between 9 power and 10 power? and 45mm and 50mm? these may be silly or stupid questions, but any info would be greatly appreciated. I can get these from the same Euro website.

the price are about 100.00 dollars difference.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

I have been looking at another bino Rangefinder. Leica Geovid R 10X42mm

Comparing the glass, to the GPO. They are in the same price range.

Does anyone have any thoughts on these two Bino rangefinders?

The GPO Rangeguide 10x50 Binocular Rangefinder's will be optically superior to the Leica Geovid-R, in my opinion. The Leica Geovid HD-R would be better, but not the Geovid-R

 

[Mountainman007]

The GPO Rangeguide 10x50 Binocular Rangefinder's will be optically superior to the Leica Geovid-R, in my opinion. The Leica Geovid HD-R would be better, but not the Geovid-R Thank you for that info... Have you heard of the Delta 9x45 RF? I did some research on them, and people are saying that they look just as good as the Alphas do, including the Swarovski EL glass wise. Have you played with them?

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Thank you for that info... Have you heard of the Delta 9x45 RF? I did some research on them, and people are saying that they look just as good as the Alphas do, including the swarovski. EL. Have you played with them?

I am sorry I have not

 

[Mountainman007]

Thanks Doug for all the great INFO! You have been a Fountain of knowledge!!

and thank you everyone else for chiming in as well!

 

[Mountainman007]

Thanks Doug for all the great INFO! You have been a Fountain of knowledge!!

and thank you everyone else for chiming in as well!

I do have a quick question for you Doug... is 9X45 any better or worse then 10X50 or 10X42? will I really see a

difference in power and diameter.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

I do have a quick question for you Doug... is 9X45 any better or worse then 10X50 or 10X42? will I really see a

difference in power and diameter.

9x are few and far between, not exactly sure what the allure is. 8x or 10x has been standard for years, 9x seems like a compromise size that none of the major optics mfg's seem interested in

 

[Mountainman007]

OK.... So, my New Delta's came in and they are OMG!! glass compared to both my Nikon and my Sig that a briefly had, and my Vortex Razor Spotting scope. The clarification on these Deltas is super amazing!! The rangefinder is super quick, faster than my Nikon, and way faster than the Sig and super comfortable on the eye relief.

Now granted I haven't looked into a Swaro or really any Alpha Bino's for that matter.

All I can say OMG!!

Thank you so much for turning me on to these Deltas Lemirage!!

I am heading out on an Elk Shed hunt, I will let you all know how the Delta's do in the field.