Vortex Razor UHD

[wind gypsy]

Be interesting to see how the 18s compare to the Maven B5.

 

[Fromthedepths]

Biggest change was to same Abbe koenig prisim maven already uses. Seems to me that most companies that have Binos made in Japan are pumping out close to the same product with minor differences material wise .

 

[WRO]

Biggest change was to same Abbe koenig prisim maven already uses. Seems to me that most companies that have Binos made in Japan are pumping out close to the same product with minor differences material wise .

They all come from the same manufacturer I would bet, same shit, different wrapper.

 

[Fromthedepths]

They all come from the same manufacturer I would bet, same shit, different wrapper.

Sounds about right

 

[Bowedup]

Wannakillabigbull, can you elaborate a bit on the FOV issues? I was going to buy the razor hd 12x50 last week until I seen they had something new coming so I waited, now I’m not sure what to do. I have not looked through the uhd’s yet.

 

[TheCougar]

Wannakillabigbull, can you elaborate a bit on the FOV issues? I was going to buy the razor hd 12x50 last week until I seen they had something new coming so I waited, now I’m not sure what to do. I have not looked through the uhd’s yet.

Swaro EL 12x50: 300’ FOV, 35oz
Vortex Razor 12x50: 285’ FOV, 29oz
Vortex Razor UHD: 236’ FOV, 36oz
Meopta 12x50: 279’ FOV, 37oz

236’ is atrocious. You sacrifice so much FOV that it you might as well be carrying 15s. swaro 15x56 has 234’ FOV and weighs 42oz.



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[2five7]

I think these are going to surprise some folks. I’ll probably look to the birders for the slightly less biased opinions

I agree. Lots of people gonna be surprised when their 2k vortex binos are worth 1k a year later

 

[Bowedup]

Swaro EL 12x50: 300’ FOV, 35oz
Vortex Razor 12x50: 285’ FOV, 29oz
Vortex Razor UHD: 236’ FOV, 36oz
Meopta 12x50: 279’ FOV, 37oz

236’ is atrocious. You sacrifice so much FOV that it you might as well be carrying 15s. swaro 15x56 has 234’ FOV and weighs 42oz.



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Ok gotcha thanks, so you have the field of view of the 15x which isn’t good for general purposes but only ythe power of the 12x!
In your guys opinion is this going to be the draw back from these. Is the extra clarity going to make up the diff of 49’ less viewing area and the extra $500?

 

[Hatchet Jack]

Ok gotcha thanks, so you have the field of view of the 15x which isn’t good for general purposes but only ythe power of the 12x!
In your guys opinion is this going to be the draw back from these. Is the extra clarity going to make up the diff of 49’ less viewing area and the extra $500?

I think they’ll be like looking through a paper towel tube. I find most animals by detecting movement out on the edges of my field of view rather than actually seeing the animal itself. A constrained field of view is a huge handicap no matter the image quality in my book.

 

[TheCougar]

Ok gotcha thanks, so you have the field of view of the 15x which isn’t good for general purposes but only ythe power of the 12x!
In your guys opinion is this going to be the draw back from these. Is the extra clarity going to make up the diff of 49’ less viewing area and the extra $500?

Tough to say without looking through them and seeing what the street price is, and knowing your intended use and what other equipment you have. That being said, a small FOV like that is a deal breaker for really expensive binos like that. Realize that a larger FOV with a larger sweet spot (clarity closer to the edge), translates to more efficient and effective glassing. If you have a 236 FOV with a 70% sweet spot that’s 22k sq ft of effective glassing area in the FOV at 1000 yards. You get EL 12s, with a 300’ FOV and 90% sweet spot, that’s 57k sq ft of effective glassing coverage at 1000 yards. That’s a HUGE difference.

For the likely price point of around $1700, I would save my money and get meopta 12s or older razor 12s. Or, if you’re not married to 12s, I would get used 15 SLCs on Rokslide, which you can find for $1850 or so. Used ELs 12s are going to cost you over $2000, if you can find them, but like the SLCs, they are worth every penny, they hold their value, and you’ll never regret it.


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[UpTop]

I was reading they were saying some of the specs posted on the site have been incorrect. Wonder if this is true

 

[Boxerboxer]

I’m thinking these will interest me at the 1250 mark new, which I believe we will see at a 1499 map

MSRP, not MAP.

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[Bowedup]

MSRP, not MAP.

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Sport optics.com has them for 1599

 

[Boxerboxer]

Sport optics.com has them for 1599

My point was just that the term MSRP (suggested price) was applicable in this situation rather than MAP (minimum advertised price).

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[DangerRanger]

My point was just that the term MSRP (suggested price) was applicable in this situation rather than MAP (minimum advertised price).

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It’s not though. The MSRP on 10s is 2149, MAP is 1499

 

[Boxerboxer]

It’s not though. The MSRP on 10s is 2149, MAP is 1499

Oh good lord, I misread some things.

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[Bowedup]

I was reading they were saying some of the specs posted on the site have been incorrect. Wonder if this is true

When the 10x have a fov of 346’, I Wounder if they don’t have the 12x labeled wrong.

 

[UpTop]

When the 10x have a fov of 346’, I Wounder if they don’t have the 12x labeled wrong.

My guess is that they have them listed wrong.

 

[Bowedup]

I just looked at the Vortex website and they changed the FOV to 285’

 

[TheCougar]

I just looked at the Vortex website and they changed the FOV to 285’

That’s more like it! It will be interesting to get some hands on reviews done of these.