Q2i Fusion X-ii 2.1 vanes

[brknarrow1970]

Here one after it went through a Missouri Turkey last spring

 

[brknarrow1970]

Handful of shots this afternoon and last 2 from 30 - exodus dead center /field point robin hooded the BH tipped arrow

 

[UTgrizzly]

I am just joining this conversation after reading some of your guys' reports. I currently shoot Victory RIP TKO Gamers using Blazer X2s in a 4-vane 1 degree helical and have great performance with them. However, as I am always trying to make my equipment and hunting experiences better I am really interested in trying out a XII SL (1.75) in a similar 4-vane configuration. Anybody have any insight?

 

[bojangles808]

I know they recommend the 2.1 reg fusions for hunting but I believe that's because they assume you are shooting a fixed blade and can use the extra height for stability. Would you have any qualms about shooting the shorter xii 2.1s (.43 vs .55) with a mechanical? Would be 3 Fletch helical

 

[5MilesBack]

Would you have any qualms about shooting the shorter xii 2.1s (.43 vs .55) with a mechanical? Would be 3 Fletch helical

Those are the ones I'm shooting....the .43" 2.1's. And even though I used them in a 3-fletch with a mechanical on the bull in my avatar, I prefer them in a 4-fletch. They just seem to be more consistent that way. Even for 3D I went all 4-fletch. I can't imagine the regular 2" Fusion II's in a 4-fletch. Those things stick out like Dumbo ears even in a 3-fletch.

 

[TheViking]

Those are the ones I'm shooting....the .43" 2.1's. And even though I used them in a 3-fletch with a mechanical on the bull in my avatar, I prefer them in a 4-fletch. They just seem to be more consistent that way. Even for 3D I went all 4-fletch.

This is good timing. I just fletched up a few in a 4 fletch to test against Fusion IIs and 3 Max Stealth with a good helical.

I shoot 125 Kidus (1.25” wide) and a 1-3/16” 3 blade fixed. Decent size fixed blade heads.

Curious to see if the 4 fletch 2.1s will be able to steer them at distance.

 

[Reburn]

I'm shooting the fusion X II 2.1 in a 4 fletch 1 degree straight right offset on a 166 shaft. I haven't had any problems steering an Iron will wide 100 out to 50 or a Iron will solid and vented 100 out to 80.

 

[JNDEER]

Those that have shot the 2.1 in 3 and 4 fletch.
Would you say one is quieter than the other?

 

[Zac]

I am just joining this conversation after reading some of your guys' reports. I currently shoot Victory RIP TKO Gamers using Blazer X2s in a 4-vane 1 degree helical and have great performance with them. However, as I am always trying to make my equipment and hunting experiences better I am really interested in trying out a XII SL (1.75) in a similar 4-vane configuration. Anybody have any insight?

Don't do it.

 

[Read1t48]

I recently switched to these vanes and have been pleased. I used 4 fletch on a Bohning wrap. No helical offset.

For those doing 4 fletch, are you still using a helical offset? I can't think 1 degree could make that much of a difference but I might have to wrap one up to compare.

 

[TheViking]

I recently switched to these vanes and have been pleased. I used 4 fletch on a Bohning wrap. No helical offset.

For those doing 4 fletch, are you still using a helical offset? I can't think 1 degree could make that much of a difference but I might have to wrap one up to compare.

I am - 4 fletch 2 degree helical. Fly like darts.

 

[Zac]

I recently switched to these vanes and have been pleased. I used 4 fletch on a Bohning wrap. No helical offset.

For those doing 4 fletch, are you still using a helical offset? I can't think 1 degree could make that much of a difference but I might have to wrap one up to compare.

The only reason not to offset is if you are running a Whisker Biscuit. You have to give the arrow some sort of direction during flight, or the environment will choose the direction for you. It's all kind of a balancing act. Dudley was shooting 1 degree offset back when he was using 4 Max Stealths. Now that he shoots that smaller 23 vane he is running 2.5 degrees to make up for less surface area.

 

[maverick351]

I am going to try the q2i x-ii 2.1 vanes but was also curious about the q2i x-ii 2.1sl vanes. But in thought they may be low enough to need a 3" 4 fletch.

 

[CApighunter]

I am going to try the q2i x-ii 2.1 vanes but was also curious about the q2i x-ii 2.1sl vanes. But in thought they may be low enough to need a 3" 4 fletch.

I tried the 2.1 in a 4 fletch, found the 3 inch was more consistent with both a 3 fletch helical and 4 fletch straight offset. I switched to 4 just so I don’t have to pay attention to what vane is up.

 

[Moneyball]

Been shooting 4-fletch Q2is for the last couple years. Going to try out TAC vanes in both three and four fletch configurations in the coming weeks and see how I like them. They are going to have to be pretty solid to make me want to switch from the Q2is. I’m just a tinkerer and can’t help myself...


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[StopMakingSense]

Been shooting 4-fletch Q2is for the last couple years. Going to try out TAC vanes in both three and four fletch configurations in the coming weeks and see how I like them. They are going to have to be pretty solid to make me want to switch from the Q2is. I’m just a tinkerer and can’t help myself...


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I've been using 2.75 drivers, 4 fletch, with a left helical this season, some thoughts...

- Quiet, dead quiet... I was at a shoot and someone pulled me aside to ask what vane I was running because it was the only arrow that didn't make noise.

- They cut down on weight in the back which was great...
* 4x Driver 2.75's = 23.6gr
* 4x Q2I XII's 3" = 40.4gr

- When shooting through a target the TAC's don't retain shape, they're such a hard vane. I did end up having to refletch two of the arrows because I drilled them into a foam backstop. The XII's though would go through and come back to shape very easily. Folks could make an argument that the TAC's don't pass through AS easy.

- The XII's are very easy to glue. The TAC's on the other hand require more attention, I had a few vanes come off in the beginning with the drivers.

Overall, both stabilize my broadhead very well.

 

[Moneyball]

I've been using 2.75 drivers, 4 fletch, with a left helical this season, some thoughts...

- Quiet, dead quiet... I was at a shoot and someone pulled me aside to ask what vane I was running because it was the only arrow that didn't make noise.

- They cut down on weight in the back which was great...
* 4x Driver 2.75's = 23.6gr
* 4x Q2I XII's 3" = 40.4gr

- When shooting through a target the TAC's don't retain shape, they're such a hard vane. I did end up having to refletch two of the arrows because I drilled them into a foam backstop. The XII's though would go through and come back to shape very easily. Folks could make an argument that the TAC's don't pass through AS easy.

- The XII's are very easy to glue. The TAC's on the other hand require more attention, I had a few vanes come off in the beginning with the drivers.

Overall, both stabilize my broadhead very well.

thank you for the report! I will post if I see similar results which I’m sure I likely will...glad to get some real world results from others on this site.


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[maverick351]

I should have my Q2i xii 2.1 in soon and looking forward to trying tge 4 fletch with them. The 1.75 didnt work as well even in a 6 fletch for me

 

[Zac]

I should have my Q2i xii 2.1 in soon and looking forward to trying tge 4 fletch with them. The 1.75 didnt work as well even in a 6 fletch for me

I don't think it matters how much surface area you have if you don't have the proper vane height. There is a reason that vanes designed for fixed heads are 0.5 inches high. This tiny vane craze is something that has carried over from the target world that simply doesn't work.

 

[Ian Ketterman]

I've been using 2.75 drivers, 4 fletch, with a left helical this season, some thoughts...

- Quiet, dead quiet... I was at a shoot and someone pulled me aside to ask what vane I was running because it was the only arrow that didn't make noise.

- They cut down on weight in the back which was great...
* 4x Driver 2.75's = 23.6gr
* 4x Q2I XII's 3" = 40.4gr

- When shooting through a target the TAC's don't retain shape, they're such a hard vane. I did end up having to refletch two of the arrows because I drilled them into a foam backstop. The XII's though would go through and come back to shape very easily. Folks could make an argument that the TAC's don't pass through AS easy.

- The XII's are very easy to glue. The TAC's on the other hand require more attention, I had a few vanes come off in the beginning with the drivers.

Overall, both stabilize my broadhead very well.

The TAC's bend but they have a good memory. I was using Pine Ridge Nitro's and they never seemed to recover from being bent at all. I am using the 3.75'' TAC's now and they reshape back to normal pretty fast.

I have noticed if you don't follow their prep details they fall off pretty easy.