Gunsmith Debacle- what would you do?

LRI_Chad

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Ok, IT WAS ME...

Chad Dixon, LongRifles, Inc.


Yes, my shiny brand new 5 axis mill killed a receiver. It happened and it'll happen again someday. I broke into uncharted territory 11 months ago when I bought this thing. It's something I've wanted to do for 15+ years now. Nobody in the industry has it other than LRI. Mistakes are going to happen but the process has proven itself beyond any expectation I ever had. When I can accurize 50-60 M700's IN A DAY and they all measure within +/- .0007" of each other for headspace target depth, it says something.

The same kinds of mistakes happened almost 20 years ago when I began fitting rifle barrels for precision guns using a cnc turning center. I was called a complete idiot for doing it and was chastized routinely.

Guess what? It's almost an industry standard now. The younger crowd of up and coming smiths/shops see the returns from using modern equipment. This trade has lived in the 1940's for far too long.

This is what were doing:


Now, regarding this particular job:

What I did to make this right after ruining the receiver:


I pulled an action from my personal collection. Ran it through the process and barreled it. Why did it take longer than it should have? After killing his receiver, I was hell-bent to ensure my mistake never happened again. Additional fail-safes in the macro variable registers used for the probing/setup routines were created. This is not code you go "buy" somewhere. This isn't a problem you're going to solve with a CAM system either. It must be written longhand, line by line. Then it has to be vetted.

What I failed to do while making it right:

Pay attention enough to realize my receiver was a 30-06. -Simply to mean the feed lips were too close for a .545 case head cartridge to fit through. We were never chartered to build the entire rifle, only the barreled action. Had I fitted a floormetal to it, the issue would have been obvious. We function tested the action and it did everything it was supposed to. We test-fired the barreled action as we do all of our stuff. Again, it did everything asked of it.

Again, it completely slipped my mind that the receiver might not have magnum feed lip geometry.


Now, to the OP:

I am very sorry we (I) let you down. It was never our intention. I screwed this up and I am sorry. I have the resources to easily rectify it if you would like.


In an effort to educate some of you regarding comments about "safety" and whatnot:

There's no such thing as "Magnum steel" vs "Std steel." Simply to mean that within the confines of production actions, they all begin life more or less the same. To expand on this further. I can quite easily take a Model 70, 700, 7, whatever that was built by the factory as a .223 (.390" bolt face) and turn it into a 338 Lapua Magnum if I want. (.590" bolt face) It won't feed worth a darn and I'll have to single load it by removing the bolt every time, but guess what?

THE GUN WON'T BLOW UP. It may stretch brass a bit with heavy bullets and hot loads, but it's not going to sneeze parts all over the creation. Turning an action from one thing to another has been done successfully by smiths all over the globe for decades.

Nothing new here, nothing to see...



Chad Dixon
LongRifles, Inc.
 

Dhbwa

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When I saw it was LRI I knew there was more to the story.
I have a few bolts done and IIRC I had Chad barrel up a 700 in 257WBY about 10yrs ago. Of course all was good.

I see miscommunications like this all the time as I have an organization of about 60 guys providing services to multiple federal contractors. It’s almost impossible to keep everyone happy let alone satisfied....

Good on Chad for showing up!

I won’t hesitate to use LRI and maybe I’ll send some bolts in ASAP....
 

tdhanses

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Have to say, seems like an honest mistake and I’m impressed with Chad owning up to it. Shit happens and sounds like he is willing to correct the issue. I highly doubt there is a single smith out there that is perfect everytime.
 

Gasman

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When I saw "LRI' on the barrel, it made me suck in a deep breath...

I'm glad that Chad responded on this thread and owned up. Kudos to him. And hopefully the OP will get his rifle up and running soon.
 

BFR

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In my 72 yrs I have learned “chit happens”, sucks but in the long run not important. What is done to fix it is, I’ve read and reread the posts and Chad did try to do right, granted he ended up using the wrong action, taken from his own collection but still not the right one. He admitted it and explained his side and offered to redo the receiver with a correct one. Take him up on it, ask him to fit your stock for your trouble, or not, up to you. As for taking too long, would you rather he continued killing receivers until he had it right? Sometimes it just takes longer than normal, I’ve done projects that I’ve done thousands of times and for some oddball reason it went triple the time it normally does, “chit happens”.
Hope you finally get what you’re wanting and it’s perfect
 
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