The Uncompagre just isn’t a “warm” jacket for me. Mileage may vary...I have a feeling those that call it “warm”, haven’t tried a ton of puffy jackets. No way can I wear the Un at 15 degrees stationary...no way.
The Uncompagre is not “warm”. That jacket is actually one of the reasons that a few years ago we started an eval to actually figure out how warm puffys really are. I heard nothing but how the Uncompagre is “an oven” and “ridiculously warm”, etc. I got it in hand and said “this is a joke”, but took everyone’s word for it and froze my fugging butt off in 35 degree weather. It has the equivalent insulation to a 45-50 degree sleeping bag. Turns out when people say “stationary” what they really mean is not sprinting up mountains after bugling elk. They don’t really mean stationery.
I have been looking at the Stone Glacier Grumman, FL Chamberlin, Kuiu Super Down Pro or Ultra, and Sitka Kelvin Down WS Hoody. Has anyone compared a these, or have reviews on them? Thanks!
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Haven’t used or seen enough of the Kuiu used to say, other than going off of their fill weight.
A couple years ago, after a few of us got tired of near hypothermia even though we were using clothing that everyone kept assuring us was “like an oven”, we started measuring as best as possible what temperatures puffys were really warm to. Our standard was “comfortable”. Which we defined as sitting on your couch at home. No shivering, no chills, no cold spots, nothing.
We used them while absolutely stationary glassing for 4-6 hours, I.E.- ZERO movement. The comfort temperature was whenever someone started to rub their arms, shiver, get chilled in the slightest, etc. Legs, feet, head, etc were all adequately insulated, and in no wind conditions so just the jackets were being tested. Upper body had a light weight long sleeve base layer (Patagonia Lvl 1, FL Aerowool 150, etc), plus a mid weight fleece (Patagonia R1, waffle too, etc), then the jacket.
Not surprisingly the comfort temperature was a bit above what their insulation value would be compared to sleeping bags.
This is from quite a few people using each, and going off of memory-
Uncompagre- 45+ degrees
Kifaru LPP- 35+ degrees
Sitka Kelvin Down WS- 25+ degrees
FL Chamberlin- 15+ degrees
+/- 5 degrees either side depending on person. Adding a rain/wind jacket over top gets another 5 or so degrees. I’ve been using the Grumman this year and so far using it as above except for switching the midweight fleece for a Sitka Kelvin Active, from negative 10 degrees and up; it seems to be good to around 30-33 degrees.